[WIP] IRAI (Intelligent Random AI) - Page 24

PL_Andrev · 08-02-10, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

ah I see what you mean. Wish I could put timers in that AI code but can't.

Really?
And what do you think about system clock?

TheDarkWraith · 08-02-10, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

Really?
And what do you think about system clock?

the devs have a set of 'rules' and a set of functions that you are allowed to use in the AI 'blocks' like action, precond, etc. Each unit (aircraft, sub, ship) has different functions also. It's very complicated and I'm still figuring out what can and can't be done. I know I can't call out to any system level or outside functions though. C++ syntax is partly enforced and then again it's not

I'm waiting on info from the devs that I've asked for

PL_Andrev · 08-02-10, 02:38 PM

TDW,

What about ramming?
At SH3 ramming into was very dangerous for uboat (in real for DD too), but ramming into conning tower was safe.
Is this bug still existed in IRAI or is solved?

TheDarkWraith · 08-02-10, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

TDW,

What about ramming?
At SH3 ramming into was very dangerous for uboat (in real for DD too), but ramming into conning tower was safe.
Is this bug still existed in IRAI or is solved?

ramming is in there. Any ship will try to ram you if their weight is > defined weight and their distance is < defined distance from you (these defined items are in the init.aix file)

TopCat · 08-02-10, 02:51 PM

I just attacked a convoy with 3 Escort units. They detected me, but by staying at periscope depth and keeping a parallel course to a merchant ship at a distance of about 100 metres, they were not able to get me, because they did not come as close to the merchant as they would have needed to.

Is there some kind of safety distance they have to keep? And if so, can there be done something to change that? I was able to cruise for hours without being attacked by the escorts. They just circled around me and my "merchant guard".

PL_Andrev · 08-02-10, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

ramming is in there. Any ship will try to ram you if their weight is > defined weight and their distance is < defined distance from you (these defined items are in the init.aix file)

I mean the bug with weak durability of submarine hull and super hard durability of conning tower...

Wolfling04 · 08-03-10, 12:55 AM

All I have to say is wow. the aircraft in this mod are DEADLY. They come outta no where and bomb you straight to hell.

Major props to you TDW

PL_Andrev · 08-04-10, 07:47 AM

I look on the AI script code and have question (do not be angry if I'm wrong again):

What about procedure:

Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.9*(1-Ship:GetDamage)
Ship:WaitAction(1)
Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.8*(1-Ship:GetDamage)
Ship:WaitAction(1)
...

TheDarkWraith · 08-04-10, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

I look on the AI script code and have question (do not be angry if I'm wrong again):

What about procedure:

Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.9*(1-Ship:GetDamage)
Ship:WaitAction(1)
Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.8*(1-Ship:GetDamage)
Ship:WaitAction(1)
...

you have a brilliant idea but one small problem. Ship:GetDamage starts at 0 and works its way up to 1. This is all fine and dandy for deck gun shots but a torpedo hit causes massive damage and would thus result in an instant speed change on the first 0.9 * .... But there is a way to do this using 'steps'. Using your method posted above will always cause the ship to slow down even if it has no damage. Your idea has given me an idea on something to try though

marleymen · 08-04-10, 01:37 PM

Brainstorming,

thank you everyone who make this game better !!

brian.larkin · 08-05-10, 11:43 AM

How in the HECK do you get away from 5 or 6 destroyers? I've been able to avoid being DC'd (mostly) but there is no amount of maneuvers that will allow me to evade them.

Do they ever just "give up"?

They seem to have super sonar sometimes.

TheDarkWraith · 08-05-10, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian.larkin

How in the HECK do you get away from 5 or 6 destroyers? I've been able to avoid being DC'd (mostly) but there is no amount of maneuvers that will allow me to evade them.

Do they ever just "give up"?

They seem to have super sonar sometimes.

welcome to IRAI!

going deep, deploying decoys, and evasive maneuvers (not necessarily in that order) are your friends.....

brian.larkin · 08-05-10, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

welcome to IRAI!

going deep, deploying decoys, and evasive maneuvers (not necessarily in that order) are your friends.....

I AM deep.. don't matter. And I don't have decoy's, still early in the war.

Sprint, drift, sprint, drift, change course, plod along at 1kt..2 kt.. 200m deep, nothing.. they just circle like hawks.

I notice that the "pac man" detect circles go from small to large and back to small, kind of flittering back and forth. Are they doing their own sprint/drift tactics?

Is there away to evade a group larger than 3? It seems with their combined tactics anything larger than 3 is just a killer group (no need to be a hunter).

marleymen · 08-05-10, 12:39 PM

Recently you were angry at the default AI

.... and now you complain that is too hard

Who understands us?

Thanks TDW

Be more agressive !!

brian.larkin · 08-05-10, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marleymen

Recently you were angry at the default AI

.... and now you complain that is too hard

Who understands us?

Thanks TDW

Be more agressive !!

Don't get me wrong. I love it better than the stock which was too easy. I wonder if the swarm's aren't too close to each other. A little more space between them would make it easier to slip between.

Or some sort of "fog of war" variable.

They just don't make a mistake large enought to slip away.

At least IMO....

Ubisoft should give TDW games for life however. The amount he's been able to do is amazing.

08-02-10, 02:38 PM	#348
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	TDW, What about ramming? At SH3 ramming into was very dangerous for uboat (in real for DD too), but ramming into conning tower was safe. Is this bug still existed in IRAI or is solved? __________________

08-03-10, 12:55 AM	#352
Wolfling04 Frogman Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nebraska... Posts: 303 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	All I have to say is wow. the aircraft in this mod are DEADLY. They come outta no where and bomb you straight to hell. Major props to you TDW __________________ I'm a gas pumpen, tire and brake changin, fix anything, jet fuel drinken, USAF Crew Chief.

08-04-10, 07:47 AM	#353
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	I look on the AI script code and have question (do not be angry if I'm wrong again): What about procedure: Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.9(1-Ship:GetDamage) Ship:WaitAction(1) Ship:SetThrottleRatio = 0.8(1-Ship:GetDamage) Ship:WaitAction(1) ... __________________

08-05-10, 11:43 AM	#356
brian.larkin Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 5 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	IRAI - Destroyer wolfpack How in the HECK do you get away from 5 or 6 destroyers? I've been able to avoid being DC'd (mostly) but there is no amount of maneuvers that will allow me to evade them. Do they ever just "give up"? They seem to have super sonar sometimes.

08-02-10, 02:51 PM	#350
TopCat Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 105 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	I just attacked a convoy with 3 Escort units. They detected me, but by staying at periscope depth and keeping a parallel course to a merchant ship at a distance of about 100 metres, they were not able to get me, because they did not come as close to the merchant as they would have needed to. Is there some kind of safety distance they have to keep? And if so, can there be done something to change that? I was able to cruise for hours without being attacked by the escorts. They just circled around me and my "merchant guard".

08-04-10, 01:37 PM	#355
marleymen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Con dos cojones, ESPAÑA Posts: 190 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Brainstorming, thank you everyone who make this game better !!

08-05-10, 12:39 PM	#359
marleymen Planesman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Con dos cojones, ESPAÑA Posts: 190 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Recently you were angry at the default AI .... and now you complain that is too hard Who understands us? Thanks TDW Be more agressive !!