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Old 07-26-10, 04:25 PM   #1
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i thought the most recent star trek was excellent.

it had a good story line, and fantastic casting.

and it did a lot to bring in a new generation of fresh fans to the franchise and opened up a whole untouched realm of new directions for the star trek series
yup... but those lens flares

Definitely looking forward to Mr. Abrams' next project.
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Old 07-26-10, 04:43 PM   #2
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Hmm, Id like to go to Duckworld, in the Far, far away region...
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Old 07-26-10, 06:18 PM   #3
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it had a good story line
Lets see, villain out for revenge?
Star Trek II, Star Trek Insurrection, Star Trek Nemesis.
Earth is in danger?
Star Trek I, Star Trek IV, Star Trek First Contact, Star Trek Nemesis
Time Travel:
Star Trek IV, Star Trek Generations, Star Trek First Contact

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and fantastic casting.
Personally I though the actor playing Chekov was mediocre. Everyone but the actors playing Spock and Bones were just average.

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I too thought the reboot was very well done - and the issue of "canon" was dealt with very cleverly, I thought, since the actions of the villain traveling back in time essentially created an alternate past and timeline for the entire ST universe and the most important characters. Now the rebooted version is free to go where no ST has gone before without contradicting the accepted canon of any of the other incarnations.
Bah contradictions? Nero blows up one Federation ship and Starfleet's technology jumps ahead 100 years? Why is the Enterprise-Nil now the size of the Enterprise-D? EAS has a great article on that! Oh and why is it powered by a Brewery? Is booze a substitute for Deuterium now in this alternate Abramsverse? Good news there is finally a shuttlebay that can fit the Delta Flyer! Unfortunately it could carry a squadron of them... and I'm surprised it didn't...

Speaking of the ship Nero blew up? WTF is wrong with her registry? 0514! Didn't someone tell them that when you write out numbers you don't include zeros before numbers greater than zero. It's not like we have not seen Federation Ships with three digit registries before!

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And I agree, the casting was brilliant. Karl Urban - who I could not have imagined in the role prior to seeing him do it - totally nailed his performance as a younger but no less crotchety McCoy,
Urban nailed the Character of McCoy!

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and the guy who played Kirk... well, even watching the movie I didn't quite see it until towards the end...
I'm still waiting to see it...

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And don't even get me started on Spock. Also - crap, I can't remember names today but the guy who played Scotty, loved him as well.
Spock was good but Scotty? Simon Pegg was a lousy choice. Did you know that Paul McGillion tried out for the role but was rejected for Scotty...

Yea that Paul McGillion... an actual Scotsman!

Simon Pegg not a Scotsman...

I guess the producers felt so bad they did give Paul a role. I think he is credited as "Guy in Hat" or something. At least he gets to tell Kirk to F off.

Bruce Greenwood was also great in the movie, I would have rather seen the whole movie with him playing Pike commanding the Enterprise than this "New Kirk"...

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yup... but those lens flares
Ah you mean the lens flares they ripped off from Firefly? Yea they were horrible...

Oh not to mention people being blow in to space when the hull is breached... Firefly did it...
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Old 07-26-10, 07:18 PM   #4
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I wasn't impressed with the new ST film. But they need to make money so anything goes today. Thats what Hollywood like to do today whore films.
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Old 07-26-10, 09:50 PM   #5
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Simon Pegg not a Scotsman...
Neither was Jimmy Doohan.

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Lets see, villain out for revenge?
Star Trek II, Star Trek Insurrection, Star Trek Nemesis.
Earth is in danger?
Star Trek I, Star Trek IV, Star Trek First Contact, Star Trek Nemesis
Time Travel:
Star Trek IV, Star Trek Generations, Star Trek First Contact
Eh, there are only so many story lines in the entire history of storytelling to which the human psyche will respond in any meaningful fashion. The details vary, but the primary plot points don't change much.

If you went through the entire history of sci-fi I'm sure you would find that the ones quoted above have been used over and over again, sometimes to great affect and sometimes not. Mostly it depends on the skill of the storyteller(s), and assessing that in any particular case is always a subjective matter. To each his own.
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Neither was Jimmy Doohan.
Ah but he was the master of dialect!

He invented the Klingon language you know...

And the character of Scotty was originally Irish...

Edit: and while I'm mentioning Doohan trivia I should mention he was missing a finger. Shot off by a nervous Bren gunner on the beaches of Normandy.
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Old 07-26-10, 11:39 PM   #7
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I have a friend who liked the new movie for one reason: He was tired of hearing the fans whine about all the times the new series and new movies monkeyed with the 'Canon'. He saw the changes in this one as being a big 'Up Yours!' from the producers to all of them. For him that made the whole thing worth it.

I watched the original series when it first aired, and despite all the changes I liked the new movie, especially the actor playing McCoy and the lines they gave him. I knew who he had to be from the first moment he complained about the transporters, and I nearly died when he gave himself his famous nickname..."She took everything but my bones."

A side note: Like Simon Pegg or not, in this movie they gave him a weird little alien sidekick. I laughed with delight when I saw the actor's name: Deep Roy. For those of you who remember Tom Baker's Doctor Who, you might want to think of 'The Talons of Weng Chiang'. Deep Roy was Mr. Sin, the Peking Humunculus.
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http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Sin

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He saw the changes in this one as being a big 'Up Yours!' from the producers to all of them.
Yea thats because none of the produces, editors, composers etc that worked on the new Star Trek had ever worked on a Star Trek series or movie before. They were all JJA's lackeys. The old team really cared about their work (Some had worked on it for several decades!)

Guys like Ron Moore, Sternbach, the Okudas, Dan Curry were nowhere to be seen. I would have even welcomed Braga and Berman for this one (As much as fans like to bitch about those two they really did some good work at times, especially compared to JJA.)

I'm sure Andre Bormanis was nowhere to be seen the set of that last movie...

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A side note: Like Simon Pegg or not, in this movie they gave him a weird little alien sidekick. I laughed with delight when I saw the actor's name: Deep Roy. For those of you who remember Tom Baker's Doctor Who, you might want to think of 'The Talons of Weng Chiang'. Deep Roy was Mr. Sin, the Peking Humunculus.
That chracter was quite possibly the biggest waste of time in the movie. What does it do? Shows New Kirk and Spock where Scotty is hanging out? What they couldn't have just had Kirk and Spock walk down the hull on their own and find him? Then he shows up on the ship at the end for some reason... did they guy even have a line?
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