Mk 18-2

Gibus · 07-21-10, 11:48 AM

Hello
I wonder if there is a MOD to use the MK18-2 electric torpedoes put into service from August 1944.
In advance, thank you.

Gibus

Bubblehead1980 · 07-21-10, 12:46 PM

what was the difference between the Mark 18-1 and Mark 18-2?

WernherVonTrapp · 07-21-10, 01:25 PM

The only thing I know about it is that the Mark-18 came in two variants. Mod-1 and Mod-2. Mod-2 was introduced in 1945 and was faster than the Mod-1. I don't know the actual speed differences between the two so, the question is: Is the game version of the Mark-18 already based on Mod-2 or on the slower Mod-1?

Bubblehead1980 · 07-21-10, 01:32 PM

Thinking its based on Mod-1 because it moves at 29 knts in game but remember reading books about later patrols and the author(usually former skippers) talking about 33 knot speed of the electric torpedos.

ETR3(SS) · 07-21-10, 02:34 PM

I can only find this link http://www.microworks.net/pacific/ar..._submarine.htm and it doesn't cite any source as to where they got their info from. Where are you guys getting your info from?

Gibus · 07-21-10, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

http://www.microworks.net/pacific/ar..._submarine.htm

My source (manual for Silent Hunter I) gives exactly the same figures as those quoted here: 4000 yards range, speed 40 knots, explosive mass : 500 lbs.
This was to be a good weapon.

But this does not say whether such a mod exists ...

WernherVonTrapp · 07-21-10, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibus

My source (manual for Silent Hunter I) gives exactly the same figures as those quoted here: 4000 yards range, speed 40 knots, explosive mass : 500 lbs.
This was to be a good weapon.

But this does not say whether such a mod exists ...

Ah, that looks like the same source I read.

ETR3(SS) · 07-21-10, 08:36 PM

I looked it up in my SH1 manual and sure enough it was there. I have to say the more and more I get into SH4 and modding it, the more and more I see how much was left out or seemingly half-assed. To answer your question though, there is no mod that I know of that has the Mk 18 Mod 2 in it, just the Mod 1 as additional torpedoes can not be added (to the best of my knowledge).

Bubblehead1980 · 07-21-10, 08:44 PM

never played SH 1, was not into subsims back then.From what I have heard though, what it lacked in certain areas it was not others and covered a lot of things Sh 4 should have. A Mark 18-2 that makes 40 knots would be great.

WernherVonTrapp · 07-21-10, 09:04 PM

I found another source that, at least, references the Mark-18 Mods-1 & 2. It seems to be a credible source.
http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/...2/Project.html

http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/...cteristics.htm

ETR3(SS) · 07-21-10, 09:12 PM

I would say the Naval Academy is a credible source.

Ducimus · 07-21-10, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I have to say the more and more I get into SH4 and modding it, the more and more I see how much was left out or seemingly half-assed.

Left our or half assed? In SH4? I don't believe it!

The sad truth is, the deeper you dig, the more apparent it is how awesome the game *could* have been when you see the unfinished fragments left behind from development. Things the devs started, but dropped.

ETR3(SS) · 07-22-10, 11:20 AM

Tell me about it. I've seen references to missiles in the game files since SH2!

And just last night while trying to figure out how to launch 24 Trident II's from the Ohio I saw a reference to a Missile Submarine.

ichso · 07-22-10, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The sad truth is, the deeper you dig, the more apparent it is how awesome the game *could* have been when you see the unfinished fragments left behind from development. Things the devs started, but dropped.

Interesting. Had there been attempts to include more detailed diving mechanics ? With trimming the boat, usage of compressed air, actual ballast readouts and so on ?

Bubblehead1980 · 07-22-10, 01:06 PM

That would be cool as an option.As Captain thats not really your responsibility but would be cool as an option.

07-21-10, 11:48 AM	#1
Gibus Ensign Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: France Posts: 223 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Mk 18-2 Hello I wonder if there is a MOD to use the MK18-2 electric torpedoes put into service from August 1944. In advance, thank you. Gibus __________________ "Pacific is a big ocean. You don't have to find the enemy if you don't want to." Dick O'Kane

07-21-10, 01:25 PM	#3
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	The only thing I know about it is that the Mark-18 came in two variants. Mod-1 and Mod-2. Mod-2 was introduced in 1945 and was faster than the Mod-1. I don't know the actual speed differences between the two so, the question is: Is the game version of the Mark-18 already based on Mod-2 or on the slower Mod-1? __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

07-21-10, 01:32 PM	#4
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,104 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Thinking its based on Mod-1 because it moves at 29 knts in game but remember reading books about later patrols and the author(usually former skippers) talking about 33 knot speed of the electric torpedos. Last edited by Bubblehead1980; 07-21-10 at 07:15 PM.

07-21-10, 02:34 PM	#5
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I can only find this link http://www.microworks.net/pacific/ar..._submarine.htm and it doesn't cite any source as to where they got their info from. Where are you guys getting your info from? __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-21-10, 08:36 PM	#8
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I looked it up in my SH1 manual and sure enough it was there. I have to say the more and more I get into SH4 and modding it, the more and more I see how much was left out or seemingly half-assed. To answer your question though, there is no mod that I know of that has the Mk 18 Mod 2 in it, just the Mod 1 as additional torpedoes can not be added (to the best of my knowledge). __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-21-10, 12:46 PM	#2
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,104 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	what was the difference between the Mark 18-1 and Mark 18-2?

07-21-10, 08:44 PM	#9
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,104 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	never played SH 1, was not into subsims back then.From what I have heard though, what it lacked in certain areas it was not others and covered a lot of things Sh 4 should have. A Mark 18-2 that makes 40 knots would be great.

07-21-10, 09:04 PM	#10
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I found another source that, at least, references the Mark-18 Mods-1 & 2. It seems to be a credible source. http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/...2/Project.html http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/...cteristics.htm __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

07-21-10, 09:12 PM	#11
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I would say the Naval Academy is a credible source. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-22-10, 11:20 AM	#13
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Tell me about it. I've seen references to missiles in the game files since SH2! And just last night while trying to figure out how to launch 24 Trident II's from the Ohio I saw a reference to a Missile Submarine. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

07-22-10, 01:06 PM	#15
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,104 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	That would be cool as an option.As Captain thats not really your responsibility but would be cool as an option.