Ranking of U.S. Presidents by historians - Page 13

Wolfehunter · 07-14-10, 09:32 PM

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...ma_billboard_4

Some people really don't like there current president? May I ask why they voted for him then?

That billboard is hardcore...

TLAM Strike · 07-14-10, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

That billboard is hardcore...

Anyone see Rich Sanchez (of CNN) label the people on the billboard "Hitler, Obama, and Stalin". He corrected himself about a half hour later but it was an fantastic "History Fail".

I just wish I had a picture of it.

Platapus · 07-15-10, 06:42 PM

I got a kick out of the tag line: Radical leaders prey on the fearful and the naive.

There are pots and kettles.....

Bubblehead1980 · 07-15-10, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

I'll leave the discussion to americans, but I just want to make one comment. Teddy Roosevelt #1

TR's foreign policy was great, not so much the domestic.

Platapus · 07-15-10, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

TR's foreign policy was great, not so much the domestic.

And he did not care all that much about Native Americans also.

August · 07-15-10, 11:06 PM

All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

krashkart · 07-15-10, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1...ma_billboard_4

Some people really don't like there current president? May I ask why they voted for him then?

That billboard is hardcore...

Heh. I'm learning not to be too surprised by anything these days. That billboard was taken down and has been replaced with a PSA.

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-16-10, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by August

All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

Trust busting is another.

Platapus · 07-16-10, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August

All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

TR was definitely one for the environment.

UnderseaLcpl · 07-16-10, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by August

All that statement proves is he was a man of his times. TR still did great things domestically. The national park system for one thing.

I have mixed feelings about that and the rest of TR's legacy. I'd call Teddy a good statesman, for the most part, but I strongly disapprove of his interventionist foreign policy and his (imo), uneccessary strengthening of government.

Moeceefus · 07-16-10, 01:10 PM

Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

Stealth Hunter · 07-16-10, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Moeceefus

Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick."

07-16-10, 03:42 PM

I think a better measure would be to rate presidents by how they handled things which are presented to them.

Washinton because he was the first and wanted to set an example for a new nation. Not to trade King George for an king George.

Jefferson for understanding the need for exploration and expansion of a fledginlg nation hoping to make its mark in a world filled with real colonial empires.

Jackson, who, through what many would consider an iron hand, transformed a back water nation into a country of expansive power unlike the world had not seen to that point.

Lincoln, who subverted every constitutional boundary to save a nation.

T. Roosevelt, who through is inpsiration started what is now the enviromental movement.

F. D. Roosevelt who showed us that limits should be placed on the presidency and brought us through the second world war.

I'll stop there so as not to prejudice more recent administrations and illustrate the need to place presidents in their time and allow for the circumstances they were dealt.

August · 07-16-10, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

I think a better measure would be to rate presidents by how they handled things which are presented to them.

Washinton because he was the first and wanted to set an example for a new nation. Not to trade King George for an king George.

Jefferson for understanding the need for exploration and expansion of a fledginlg nation hoping to make its mark in a world filled with real colonial empires.

Jackson, who, through what many would consider an iron hand, transformed a back water nation into a country of expansive power unlike the world had not seen to that point.

Lincoln, who subverted every constitutional boundary to save a nation.

T. Roosevelt, who through is inpsiration started what is now the enviromental movement.

F. D. Roosevelt who showed us that limits should be placed on the presidency and brought us through the second world war.

I'll stop there so as not to prejudice more recent administrations and illustrate the need to place presidents in their time and allow for the circumstances they were dealt.

Well said.

Sailor Steve · 07-16-10, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Moeceefus

Off topic a bit, Teddy was one of the few presidents I feel could kick the crap out of somebody. A strong image is important for a world leader.

Even further off topic: He hated being called "Teddy".

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I got a kick out of the tag line: Radical leaders prey on the fearful and the naive. There are pots and kettles..... __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think a better measure would be to rate presidents by how they handled things which are presented to them. Washinton because he was the first and wanted to set an example for a new nation. Not to trade King George for an king George. Jefferson for understanding the need for exploration and expansion of a fledginlg nation hoping to make its mark in a world filled with real colonial empires. Jackson, who, through what many would consider an iron hand, transformed a back water nation into a country of expansive power unlike the world had not seen to that point. Lincoln, who subverted every constitutional boundary to save a nation. T. Roosevelt, who through is inpsiration started what is now the enviromental movement. F. D. Roosevelt who showed us that limits should be placed on the presidency and brought us through the second world war. I'll stop there so as not to prejudice more recent administrations and illustrate the need to place presidents in their time and allow for the circumstances they were dealt.