The Revisionist Attitude Towards The Pacific Theater

Subnuts · 07-14-10, 05:52 PM

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The Cane Mutiny

That movie was sweet, man!

Fincuan · 07-14-10, 06:11 PM

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The Cane Mutiny

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That movie was sweet, man!

Never heard of that one, but a movie called The Caine Mutiny is indeed pretty good

Platapus · 07-14-10, 06:22 PM

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Never heard of that one, but a movie called The Caine Mutiny is indeed pretty good

So in addition to someone stealing the strawberrys, someone stole the letter "I"?

And I have proved this with geometric logic!

(rolling ball bearings in my hand)

Bilge_Rat · 07-14-10, 07:08 PM

Great movie, very loosely based on the november 44 Typhoon than sank 3 tin cans.

remember, these are 1957 special effects...just focus on the acting.

frau kaleun · 07-14-10, 07:44 PM

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Never heard of that one, but a movie called The Caine Mutiny is indeed pretty good

Great performance by Bogart and also José Ferrer, who played the Navy lawyer defending the men accused of mutiny. Best bit IMO is when he crashes the celebratory party after their acquittal and tells them all off, then says that if anyone wants to take it up with him mano a mano he'll be outside waiting. Then he adds, "I'm drunk, so it'll be a fair fight."

But it's another movie that IMO suffers from the unfortunate inclusion of a "romantic" subplot which really seems to add nothing to it all and just bores me to tears every time they cut to those scenes. Don't know if it was in the book, if so and it worked there, I don't think they did a very good job of working it into the movie version.

Platapus · 07-14-10, 08:07 PM

Only because of my anal-retentive nature, the exact quote is

If you wanna do anything about it, I'll be outside. I'm a lot drunker than you are - so it'll be a fair fight.

yeah, I know, this why I have no friends.

frau kaleun · 07-14-10, 08:12 PM

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Only because of my anal-retentive nature, the exact quote is

If you wanna do anything about it, I'll be outside. I'm a lot drunker than you are - so it'll be a fair fight.

yeah, I know, this why I have no friends.

Dammit I knew I shoulda looked it up to be sure.

But hey at least I remembered it was José and not Mel before I hit "Submit."

Platapus · 07-14-10, 08:50 PM

He also had an arm in a cast so that would have been an interesting fight.

Sailor Steve · 07-14-10, 09:24 PM

So has anyone besides Raptor1 and me read the book?

Sailor Steve · 07-14-10, 10:04 PM

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But it's another movie that IMO suffers from the unfortunate inclusion of a "romantic" subplot which really seems to add nothing to it all and just bores me to tears every time they cut to those scenes. Don't know if it was in the book, if so and it worked there, I don't think they did a very good job of working it into the movie version.

Actually there's a lot more of the romance, and a lot more of the action, and a lot more of the characterization, and a lot more of everything, and while the main plot is spot-on the background story is a lot longer. If they had filmed the book exactly it would have been five hours long and a whole lot more boring.

Book is better, but the film works better the way it is.

Herman Wouk also rewrote his novel as a stage play, and though I've never seen it the 1988 The Caine Mutiny Court Martial is supposed to be as good as the movie.

Bilge_Rat · 07-15-10, 08:28 AM

I read Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and remembrance". Good to show the epic sweep of WW2, but overall, I find his writing a bit to soap opera-ish.

Btw, there was a real-life "caine mutiny" aboard a US ship, the USS Vance in 1965:

http://www.aspen-ridge.net/DE_R_s/US...uss_vance.html

Raptor1 · 07-15-10, 10:25 AM

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I read Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and remembrance". Good to show the epic sweep of WW2, but overall, I find his writing a bit to soap opera-ish.

Btw, there was a real-life "caine mutiny" aboard a US ship, the USS Vance in 1965:

http://www.aspen-ridge.net/DE_R_s/US...uss_vance.html

I read War and Remembrance (Haven't read Winds of War yet, though I have it). I enjoyed it, though there are a few parts which are mighty boring and a few parts in it's description of the war itself which could've been better (But only just a few, it's mostly very accurate).

The Caine Mutiny is a very different type of book though.

Buddahaid · 07-15-10, 01:09 PM

"Sands of Iwo Jima"

"They Were Expendable"

"Guadalcanal Diary"

"Battlecry"

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Great movie, very loosely based on the november 44 Typhoon than sank 3 tin cans. remember, these are 1957 special effects...just focus on the acting. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Only because of my anal-retentive nature, the exact quote is If you wanna do anything about it, I'll be outside. I'm a lot drunker than you are - so it'll be a fair fight. yeah, I know, this why I have no friends. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	He also had an arm in a cast so that would have been an interesting fight. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	So has anyone besides Raptor1 and me read the book? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I read Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and remembrance". Good to show the epic sweep of WW2, but overall, I find his writing a bit to soap opera-ish. Btw, there was a real-life "caine mutiny" aboard a US ship, the USS Vance in 1965: http://www.aspen-ridge.net/DE_R_s/US...uss_vance.html __________________

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,319 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	"Sands of Iwo Jima" "They Were Expendable" "Guadalcanal Diary" "Battlecry" __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie