Gues which weapon is best against any ship!

DivingWind · 09-22-05, 02:25 PM

Well actually it isnt a weapon,it's speacial forces! I was toying with Udaloy.Launched dozen of TASM and nothing (very good defence).Launched torps-evaded! Launched special forces for fun and they managed to boarded the boat and sabotage it! Udaloy blew up in to million pieces!

Note:Udaloy was making 9kts,rubber boat max speed is 10kts.

Kapitan · 09-22-05, 03:35 PM

i must try this

DivingWind · 09-22-05, 03:48 PM

Tested this with Kuznetsov! Same thing,ship exploded! They really know they're thing

OKO · 09-22-05, 05:50 PM

yep, it's a bug from sub command

was never removed.
But you can see easily the "cheat" on the replay

some guys in a dinghy, able to destroy a warship is just a bug, really not feature.

DivingWind · 09-23-05, 09:32 AM

Why not?! Couple kilos of high explosive at the right place and the ship rests at the bottom of the sea. The question is... Can team of spec ops board destroyer? I think they can,under night or bad weather cover.On board any ship there is very little weapons and crew doesnt carry even pistols.

So I think this (definatly a) feature is great thing!

Molon Labe · 09-23-05, 10:28 AM

I think the next two "platforms" in the game will have to be special warfare soldiers and USMC guards! We'll have to have a firefight outside a CVN's magazines, and then try to get out before she blows sky high!

"...and when that door opens, man...nobody was ready for it. Panic, devastation, this was like shooting fish in a frickin' barrel....

They exited out the front door; they had no idea wha they were in for. Now they're staring at six men with guns drawn. It was [bleep]in' ambush...For a few seconds, this place was Armageddon!"

(Funny, I always thought it was people in glass houses that sunk ships, not little assault guys in rubber boats) :rotfl:

darksythe · 09-23-05, 11:59 AM

Kinda reminds me of nimitz class.....

Although those were Kilos and they were docked

I think the easiest way for a Sf team to destroy a ship would be from the keel with charges placed strategicaly alrough it might be difficult for them to kick out 10 kts

DivingWind · 09-23-05, 02:53 PM

Spec Ops are trained to board stationary or slow moving ships.Not sure about destroying ships using explosives.Although nothing is impossible

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OKO · 09-23-05, 05:58 PM

can you really imagine 6 or 8 guys sizing up a DD ?
divingwind ...

not about merchant, but a warship ... it will be destroyed before he could approach.
Using it against a merchant ok.
But if it works against a warship, this mean AI warship should have a doctrine for that, or this could be consider as a cheat.

Kapitan · 09-23-05, 06:04 PM

im surprised if some one did that to say a nimitz how the heck are 6000 men going to miss 8 men in black suites when they have to walk right past em

JoGary(sco) · 09-23-05, 07:16 PM

I seem to remember a program that used to screen reconstructions of Special Forces operation. In one of the eposodes they used some LAW missiles. U know the Anti Tank thinges. They swam in to range of a Frigate or Patrol boat docked. Looked big to me

but was problebly a patrol boat. Once in range they fires the Anti Tank missiles at the boat and aimed just below the waterline. Think they fired 3 at it. I seem to remember thinking "would a AT missile penetrate the hull of a war ship. but thought yeh, maybe. They are armour piercing after all. Anyhow thats what they did and said the mission was sucesful. Cant remember whoes special forces or who they where attacking. Watched that many of the. In most episodes it was navy seals but it could have been any countries SF.

DivingWind · 09-24-05, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKO

can you really imagine 6 or 8 guys sizing up a DD ?

Of course not,rubber boat would be sent to oblivion before it could approach destroyer.

Kapitan · 09-24-05, 01:49 AM

be blown sky high before it reaches any type of warship

Hartmann · 09-26-05, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivingWind

Why not?! Couple kilos of high explosive at the right place and the ship rests at the bottom of the sea. The question is... Can team of spec ops board destroyer? I think they can,under night or bad weather cover.On board any ship there is very little weapons and crew doesnt carry even pistols.

So I think this (definatly a) feature is great thing!

The question is aproach to the target, deal with lockouts with nigt vision devices, and the 50s. machine guns .

and against a moving warship ...

Only this could work with small ships like pt-boats or docked warships putting explosives underwater or inside, in the magazines. asuming that they can silence the ship sailors without noise.

LuftWolf · 09-26-05, 05:48 PM

What if they had a man on the inside?

09-22-05, 02:25 PM	#1
DivingWind Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lithuania Posts: 211 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Gues which weapon is best against any ship! Well actually it isnt a weapon,it's speacial forces! I was toying with Udaloy.Launched dozen of TASM and nothing (very good defence).Launched torps-evaded! Launched special forces for fun and they managed to boarded the boat and sabotage it! Udaloy blew up in to million pieces! Note:Udaloy was making 9kts,rubber boat max speed is 10kts. __________________

09-22-05, 03:35 PM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,132 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	i must try this __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-22-05, 03:48 PM	#3
DivingWind Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lithuania Posts: 211 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Tested this with Kuznetsov! Same thing,ship exploded! They really know they're thing __________________

09-23-05, 09:32 AM	#5
DivingWind Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lithuania Posts: 211 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Why not?! Couple kilos of high explosive at the right place and the ship rests at the bottom of the sea. The question is... Can team of spec ops board destroyer? I think they can,under night or bad weather cover.On board any ship there is very little weapons and crew doesnt carry even pistols. So I think this (definatly a) feature is great thing! __________________

09-23-05, 02:53 PM	#8
DivingWind Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lithuania Posts: 211 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Spec Ops are trained to board stationary or slow moving ships.Not sure about destroying ships using explosives.Although nothing is impossible [/img] __________________

09-22-05, 05:50 PM	#4
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	yep, it's a bug from sub command was never removed. But you can see easily the "cheat" on the replay some guys in a dinghy, able to destroy a warship is just a bug, really not feature.

09-23-05, 10:28 AM	#6
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	I think the next two "platforms" in the game will have to be special warfare soldiers and USMC guards! We'll have to have a firefight outside a CVN's magazines, and then try to get out before she blows sky high! "...and when that door opens, man...nobody was ready for it. Panic, devastation, this was like shooting fish in a frickin' barrel.... They exited out the front door; they had no idea wha they were in for. Now they're staring at six men with guns drawn. It was [bleep]in' ambush...For a few seconds, this place was Armageddon!" (Funny, I always thought it was people in glass houses that sunk ships, not little assault guys in rubber boats) :rotfl:

09-23-05, 11:59 AM	#7
darksythe Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 269 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Kinda reminds me of nimitz class..... Although those were Kilos and they were docked I think the easiest way for a Sf team to destroy a ship would be from the keel with charges placed strategicaly alrough it might be difficult for them to kick out 10 kts

09-23-05, 05:58 PM	#9
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	can you really imagine 6 or 8 guys sizing up a DD ? divingwind ... not about merchant, but a warship ... it will be destroyed before he could approach. Using it against a merchant ok. But if it works against a warship, this mean AI warship should have a doctrine for that, or this could be consider as a cheat.

09-23-05, 06:04 PM	#10
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,132 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	im surprised if some one did that to say a nimitz how the heck are 6000 men going to miss 8 men in black suites when they have to walk right past em __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-23-05, 07:16 PM	#11
JoGary(sco) A-ganger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loch lomand, Scotland Posts: 71 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I seem to remember a program that used to screen reconstructions of Special Forces operation. In one of the eposodes they used some LAW missiles. U know the Anti Tank thinges. They swam in to range of a Frigate or Patrol boat docked. Looked big to me but was problebly a patrol boat. Once in range they fires the Anti Tank missiles at the boat and aimed just below the waterline. Think they fired 3 at it. I seem to remember thinking "would a AT missile penetrate the hull of a war ship. but thought yeh, maybe. They are armour piercing after all. Anyhow thats what they did and said the mission was sucesful. Cant remember whoes special forces or who they where attacking. Watched that many of the. In most episodes it was navy seals but it could have been any countries SF. __________________ Joseph,Gary Winters jgw28@blueyonder.co.uk ICQ : 259-346-534 http://seawolves.org

09-24-05, 01:49 AM	#13
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,132 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	be blown sky high before it reaches any type of warship __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

09-26-05, 05:48 PM	#15
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	What if they had a man on the inside? __________________ LW