[REQ] Info/opinions on the interior

[SteelViking]

Ok, I am continuing to work on the interior, and I am trying to inch closer and closer to complete realism. However, I could use what the thread title implies. Here is the info I would like to get:

-Did hatches in U-boats have any writing/warnings or anything like that on them? Pictures would be wonderful if anyone has any.

-Is the color of the observation periscope in the command room realistic? If not, what should it look like? Also, does anyone know what texture file is used to render it(it would save me a lot of time if I did not have to track it down). Again, pictures would be a great help.

-Does anyone know what texture file is used to render the background of the temperature gauges in the engine room. I know which one makes the overlay mask, but I cannot figure out the background. I would like to edit it to indicate some temperature other that the lowest since it cannot be animated. Also, what is a realistic temperature that a diesel engine of that type would run at(I know that this is going a bit overboard, but if I am going to do it, I want to get it right).

-I made this request on the thread for my interior mod, but got no response to it: If anyone sees any shadows throughout the sub that look weird or out of place, please take a screen shot and explain how it should look. I have been working on redoing the shadow maps for the interior and I could really use this help.

Thanks everybody for any help you can give me in these areas. Also, once I work through these issues, I am likely to need further information on other ones. So, continuing support would be greatly appreciated.

The critical temperature of the exhaust is said to be 5500 C. Thermometers are fitted to the exhaust pipes of the individual cylinders and the main exhaust pipe.
A clearly visible red mark is at 5500 graduation. Operation of the engine at 5500 exhaust temperature for short periods is said not to be injurious.

[BIGREG]

I have take a look of my photos , but i have not good one for the temps guages ( unreadable )

Privateer are you sure for the temp ? 5000 degrés celsius !!!! i think that must more than 500 ° celsius max for the exhaust

I am plumber and output of industrial boilers and smoke it up for 500 ° and the minimum 180 ° (not to condensation), the melting point of steel is 1538 ° Celsius

[kemeri]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Also, what is a realistic temperature that a diesel engine of that type would run at(I know that this is going a bit overboard, but if I am going to do it, I want to get it right).

Average 330-390°C, depending upon the diesel load.
Also the difference between each cylinder and the average temperature should not exceed 5%, otherwise diesel is to be readjusted

[SteelViking]

@ Privateer,

Yeah, I think you are off by a factor of 10. 5500 degrees would be way too much, no offence intended though my friend.

That's a quote from U-boats.something or other I believe.
Not from me.
The copy paste changed from 550 degrees Celsius to 5500.
Sorry.

[OldFrenchy]

Hi SteelViking-
I have 4 postcards from U995 that I can scan for you if it helps. We were not able to get into the sub and take photos as it was being overhauled at the time, and these are the only color pics I have. I can't say that the colors found inside are authentic or modern.
Give me an e-mail address to send them to.

OldFrenchy

[Alex]

Originally Posted by OldFrenchy

I can't say that the colors found inside are authentic or modern.

Modern of course : but at least U-995's colors look better than U-505's bright white interiors that americans preferred, hehe.

[SteelViking]

Originally Posted by OldFrenchy

Hi SteelViking-
I have 4 postcards from U995 that I can scan for you if it helps. We were not able to get into the sub and take photos as it was being overhauled at the time, and these are the only color pics I have. I can't say that the colors found inside are authentic or modern.
Give me an e-mail address to send them to.

OldFrenchy

Yes, I would appreciate any interior pictures I can get. I sent a PM with my email address.

Originally Posted by Alex

Modern of course : but at least U-995's colors look better than U-505's bright white interiors that americans preferred, hehe.

My research has pointed towards the Kriegsmarine using an off white color, which is what I have recreated for the next version of my mod(pure white looks ridiculously stark anyway).

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Yes, I would appreciate any interior pictures I can get. I sent a PM with my email address.



My research has pointed towards the Kriegsmarine using an off white color, which is what I have recreated for the next version of my mod(pure white looks ridiculously stark anyway).

Here's the info I got at UboatArchive.net on U-570: "Luminous paint was applied around all doorframes, to the edges of the two hatch skirts and overhead in the I.H. from door to door. A vertical strip of luminous paint was applied on the interior of the hatch trunks leading from C.R. to C.T. and to the hatch in the after battery room. Luminous paint was used generally on marking of gauges and indicators."

However, I do recall one of the reports mentioning that the U-boat was painted rather dark compared to US boats and that it should have been painted lighter to make better use of the light on board.

Here's a link to some large color pics of the U-505 exhibit (Type IXC) as she is painted today (unsure whether colors are original or not).

http://www.msichicago.org/about-the-...current/u-505/

This picture looks like it was taken before restoration, presumably in original colors:

I no longer have the documents, BUT!
The U-505 had custom paint created in the restoration project.
Both inside and outside.
Those paints were based on documentation from WWII to re-create
the original colors as closley as possible.
Paint chips were also subjected to studies to verify the mix code.
Then all the paints were custom blended and tested.
As I recall?
It was mostly done for free by a Major Paint Company.

[SteelViking]

@ Capt Jack Harkness,

I hope that is pre-restoration, because I have the color of the walls pretty close to what that picture shows.

Anyway, I have looked and looked, but I cannot find the textures that are used to render the periscope shaft that is visible in the command room, or the one used for the background of the engine temperature gauges. However, BIGREG mentioned that the temp gauges might be able to be animated after all but that they would take a lot of work.

Oh, and one other piece of information that would be very helpful, does anyone know what the label for the electric gauges should say? A good quality picture of the generator would be great. I ask because BIGREG has figured out a way to change the electric gauge labels without messing up the labels on the TDC, but we are not sure what the most accurate word/words would be to put on the label.

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Motor room, U-995 (Type VIIC/41):


More of U-995 (Note deck color/material):


Radio Room, U-995:


Control Room, U-995:


More U-995 pics: http://www.alide.com.br/artigos/u-995/index.htm

[SteelViking]

Once again Capt Jack Harkness, thank you for you help, this is what 3 I owe you now? Oh wait, the torps in v1.1 are for you, so thats 2 I owe you

Nice photos, but I am pretty sure that the floors in the middle pic are modern plastic that has been laid down perhaps just as a precaution for tourists(would not want people to slip and fall on diamond plate steel). However, the middle pic DOES NOT show any sort of label/warning/wording on the hatch, so I suppose I won't bother doing anything with them.

Yep,
That's a modern day Commercial product on the floor.
I've put down Hundreds of Thousands of square feet of that stuff!