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Old 07-06-10, 11:23 AM   #1
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do you remember "missile gap" and race to the Moon? That is how this machine works.
yea sure, explain why the US Atlas V rockets use Russian Proton Engines? Or why the Russian moonship the Soyuz is still flying as the shuttle is about to bite the dust?

A Ukrainian firm Antonov is about to drop it hat in the the ring for the USAF's new tanker. Politics will dictate that they don't get it but Antonov heavy lift aircraft are just as good if not better than our Lockheed C-5s. In fact the An-124 ships a lot of US and European aircraft and space gear around like the Centaur stage of the aforementioned Atlas V.

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Old 07-06-10, 12:03 PM   #2
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Lets us not be driven to sterile and sometimes offensive comments here. We are all glad the the game improves due to a joint effort of the community, whether we are from US, Russia, Belarus, various European countries or others, and the forums allow us to debug and exchange on the game, let us not waste them for one-sided arguments. We French people have always been listened to and had the chance to convince RA team to issue a new French playable, We have also exchanged with both RA and Lwami teams for sound levels and so on, but we respect their ultimate decisions, they are the one who do the hard works, it is easy to criticize, but without them and their availability, DW would still be in infancy and abandoned by Sonalysts.
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Old 07-06-10, 12:33 PM   #3
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yea sure, explain why the US Atlas V rockets use Russian Proton Engines? Or why the Russian moonship the Soyuz is still flying as the shuttle is about to bite the dust?
- First think about lamentable end of such thing like...Buran.

- Second you should know after USSR's collapse US also robbed Russkies from some interesting pieces of Soviet technology for testing or their own use. Nothing strange here because in few selected areas Soviets possessed good stuff.

- Third think about MIR space station's fate and who was sending in outer space so called "space tourists" and why.

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A Ukrainian firm Antonov is about to drop it hat in the the ring for the USAF's new tanker. Politics will dictate that they don't get it but Antonov heavy lift aircraft are just as good if not better than our Lockheed C-5s. In fact the An-124 ships a lot of US and European aircraft and space gear around like the Centaur stage of the aforementioned Atlas V.
Yes, An-124 is as good as C-5 but unfortunately it appeared 25 years later. Well, another example of Russian lead in high-tech...by the way Russkies still cannot produce powerful high-bypass turbofans engines because the sole such engine's producer - a "Motor-Sich" factory - remained on Ukraine. Well, US designed such engines during C-5 program about 45 years ago and now third generation of HBR engines is in use in the West.

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Old 07-06-10, 12:57 PM   #4
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- First think about lamentable end of such thing like...Buran.

- Second you should know after USSR's collapse US also robbed Russkies from some interesting pieces of Soviet technology for testing or their own use. Nothing strange here because in few selected areas Soviets possessed good stuff.

- Third think about MIR space station's fate and who was sending in outer space so called "space tourists" and why.
The Buran was killed due to funding not to any technical or deisgn flaw, in fact it was in many ways a more refined design than the STS.

We didn't steal the Russian engines for the Atlas V, it was good so Rocketdyne partnered with the Russians to build them.

What about Mir? The lessons learn from it will prove useful in any future Mars missions- that was part of its purpose. So they sent some paying customers up for a ride? They beat Branson too it!


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Yes, An-124 is as good as C-5 but unfortunately it appeared 25 years later. Well, another example of Russian lead in high-tech...
Something to be said about letting the other guy make all the screw ups for you.
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