Airsoft

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner

Anyway, I talk too much.

Says who?

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Says who?

Not nearly as much as you do.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner

I'd love to play Airsoft but it's banned out here in Australia.

damn, you aussies have no fun. but I'm sure there are no inspectors out in the outback, you could play with homemade airsoft tanks down there with 3000 vs 3000 players and noone would notice

[Geno_Mariner]

Originally Posted by Betonov

damn, you aussies have no fun. but I'm sure there are no inspectors out in the outback, you could play with homemade airsoft tanks down there with 3000 vs 3000 players and noone would notice

Some peeps reckons because we have a new PM (Gillard) we might have a chance. But who knows. Just a matter of convincing the govt to revise the ban. I'm just annoyed that NZ got it legal and UK got it legal, but not us Aussies Maybe I'll move to NZ, it's a few hours flight away Never flown there but airfares aren't pricy, haha. (And yep... the Aussie Airsoft sites remains unchanged, except for a few new ones popping up, here's hoping someone will notice)

@Schroeder: lol I get some people who says I talk a little too much, I'm usually a bit of a chatty person when on a topic I like...

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Geno_Mariner

I'd love to play Airsoft but it's banned out here in Australia. Apparently there was meant to be some hearing to discuss the revision of the ban at the beginning of this year... Will have to check up on the Airsoft sites again, but I'm willing to bet the Australia one remains unchanged.
Otherwise I would've got a few arsenals of Sniper Rifles (I'm more like a sniper in some ways), not to mention SVD's (However that may change soon if our good Laser Tag sites gets Frag Tag aka military/survival laser tag with real gun sounds and realistic guns, hope they'd make a SVD... here's a site link if anyone's curious http://www.fragtag.com.au/ )

Anyway, I talk too much. It's been a while since I talked of Airsofts

Umm as far as I know it's not banned but you are required to get a real weapon license when you buy one .

Anyway the price tags for these airsoft guns here are ridiculous. For example

A real Sword SVD that would cost US$750.00 is sold at US$1300.00 and add another $400.00 for a real SVD scope and those prices are for second hand RS SVD!!!!

A JG SVD that would sell for only US$99-100 abroad is sold at $350.00!!!

. I'm not going to fork US$350.00 for stuff that's actually a hundred bucks in value. I mean I can understand that these people have to profit but selling at 300% than what the British or Americans are selling is not trading but stealing.

Well I wouldn't worry about being chatty there's nothing wrong with that in fact I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the link didn't know those stuffs already existed ;-)

[Geno_Mariner]

Real weapon license huh? Airsoft sites for AU are still saying Airsoft is not legal here I've been planning to get one (license) for some time since I used to consider trying out Clay Pigeon Shooting (or target shooting).
But as far as I know, there isn't any Airsoft meeting grounds but that probably means I need to dig deeper.

That much for the SVD's? Real wallet breaker for me But I don't know if I can even import from abroad either, customs'd be all over my Airsofts if I ever did. Don't know what should be done in that situation, the only things I've ever had from abroad are model kits and the few odds and ends.

@Castout: I've been told Mildura in Victoria will be getting Frag Tag, I'm just hoping Sydney (or surrounding suburb or elsewhere) will get it someday. It'll beat normal laser tags

[Castout]

Real Sword SVD and Classic Army SVD are the top two Airsoft SVD Dragunov. The RS could be bought at US$750 online and the CA at about US$420.00 online.

There's also the Chinese JG SVD sold at US100.00 online

But I think I may have found the one for me if the price is right

An A&K SVD Dragunov(spring not electric) which performance easily exceeds 400 feet per second. Online it's about US$150.00.

Now to look for this A&K here along with a scope rail and a scope at fair price is another matter altogether especially without a silly jacked up price tag.

Heck you can even buy a REAL illegal pistol for US$250.00 so I don't see why these airsofts should cost a lot more than a real gun.

A&K SVD teaser(warning music is AWFUL)

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Castout

Heck you can even buy a REAL illegal pistol for US$250.00 so I don't see why these airsofts should cost a lot more than a real gun.

Serrously, the prices are nuts, I've seen a Mosin Nagat Sniper Rifle selling for about US$160 online. (A real one not an airsoft).

I've though about getting in to Airsoft (to have fun and get in shape) but since I plan on going to College next year I gave it up- any weapons are not allowed on campus- even airsoft.

[Buddahaid]

I belong to a BB gun club that puts on wars mostly near New Orleans. I'm talking the bronze/steel Daisy type .187. Members only affair but we get to use pyro for grenades and rockets, etc.

The best thing about the airsoft products are the automatics and the realistic looks. I've purchased both the Thompson M1A1 and 1928 ganster style solely for the looks. First thing to go are the orange tips (saved for the future). They are great fun and have a nice heft to them.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Serrously, the prices are nuts, I've seen a Mosin Nagat Sniper Rifle selling for about US$160 online. (A real one not an airsoft).

I've though about getting in to Airsoft (to have fun and get in shape) but since I plan on going to College next year I gave it up- any weapons are not allowed on campus- even airsoft.

College is just four years and by the time you're done even better guns will be coming out that is if it still interests you. Probably would switch to dating girls

And speaking about the prices I've seen an airsoftgun being sold at a whopping US$1400.00 Now the people who would buy such guns are bloody idiot first and foremost! For example google ARES airsoft.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I belong to a BB gun club that puts on wars mostly near New Orleans. I'm talking the bronze/steel Daisy type .187. Members only affair but we get to use pyro for grenades and rockets, etc.

The best thing about the airsoft products are the automatics and the realistic looks. I've purchased both the Thompson M1A1 and 1928 ganster style solely for the looks. First thing to go are the orange tips (saved for the future). They are great fun and have a nice heft to them.

I'm gonna ask you for advice about organising these airsoft wars. If our plan with the airsoft grounds go as planned we're going to see some annual large scale battles in Slovenia

[Buddahaid]

Those wars are usually somewhere around 25-40 people in size. The club has rules of safety and conduct to prevent injuries, and it has worked for thirty years with injuries being limited to ankle sprains and blood blisters on fingertips, etc. Club approved headgear is a must and all orifices must be protected. The rest is up to your pain threshold. With the BB guns, we limit the velocity to under 350fps and test them before battle to be certain. The pyro is also limited to items that will not get stuck on your person and start burning things. No flaming balls, etc. Worst injuries here involve loud bangs close to the ears. New members must be sponsored, and the sponsor is mainly responsible for the newbees conduct.

As far as the wars themselves go.

1. Three hits and your dead.
2. If pyro explodes within a rifle arc of your person, your dead
3. Knife (rubber) kills are made by putting down, or slinging, your gun, placing one hand on the victim, stabbing and saying "Your dead".
3. Garrot kills are the same, but both hands must be placed on the victim.
4. No body contact other than knife or garrot kills allowed.
5. When you are dead, you hold your hands and gun over your head and announce, "I'm dead". You then exit the battle zone to your sides dead zone.
6. Dead zones are usually a protected, helmet off area where you can get a breather, reload, or whatever you need to do.
7. Deaths are recorded at the dead zone by shooting a hole next to your name into a cardboard placard.
8. Once you have recorded your death you may reenter the battle at once.
9. If something goes wrong, you shout "Stop the war" until you get every ones attention, then correct or deal with the problem.
10. One, or two people are marshals to keep things, and people in line.
11. Deaths are strictly an honour system. No griping over someone who doesn't die when you think you killed them. You may be shooting an empty gun.

Battles are created by the scenario masters and kept secret until the war. We also have a "machines of war" category, that allows for the creation of virtual tanks, etc. How to kill them, and how deadly they are, is decided in the scenario.

Battles are usually divided into two halves of two hours each, or until the main goal is won. Often the first half is in daylight, and the second half after dark with a rest period in between.

Before battle, you will each check each other to ensure your gear is on safely.

That pretty much sums it up for general rules and procedures. Battle scenarios are mostly two teams and some goal to accomplish. It helps to have a permanent battle zone where you can erect some types of structures beforehand. Our scenarios are a mix of historical and fantasy battles. We've had Macy's verses Bloomingdale's, the battle over the last FEMA trailer stuck on the causeway, a pocket of Russian paratroopers (laugh, they jumped out of slow, low flying planes into snowbanks without chutes) surrounded by Germans, etc.

Oh, cliffs and water crossing are simulated by creating a zone where you have to crawl along a rope, or cross on your knees using your gun as a paddle. Usually small boats are two or three man affairs with no shooting allowed because you are paddling.

Budda

Oh yeah, we allow you to re-spawn yourself as many times as you can stand during the war. After the war, deaths are tallied and used to weight the results in determining who won. This allows for larger battles to be represented. I usually get killed 25-30 times during a war. This is a big fun factor over paintball IMO.

We also make medals and such to award in the banquet that follows right after the war. These are comical in nature, but proudly worn.

[Betonov]

thanks

copied it onto a document for future references, will mention your name as the author, credit where credit is due

[Buddahaid]

As for pyro, three types are mainly used to make the following.

1. Firecracker Grenades. Take one pack of firecrackers, bend in half to break the paper, find the fuse leader and tape on another inch or so of canon fuse on. This is then put in a 35mm film canister with the fuse sticking out of the cap which has been cross-cut.

2. Firecracker satchel charges. Made up from longer strings of about 100, tape on extra canon fuse and tape up into something more manageable.

3. Bottle rocket launchers, big or small rockets with report. Use PVC pipe to fashion a barrel, cut an opening in the side to get to the fuses with a lighter. You want to block the back end, but leave it open to air. Keep it away from your face.

4. Saturn pods. These are those cubes of 25 little screaming rockets that go anywhere. They also come in 100 packs. You can't throw these so they are usually held somehow and "aimed". You can make holders, PVC tube barrel launchers, or tape one to your back for a suicide style.

5. If you carry a lighter, tie it to yourself with a bootlace. Alternately, you can tape strike anywhere kitchen matches to the fuses and tape an emery board to your forearm. It's a good idea to tape the matches on anyway to help lighting.

Budda