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Old 07-05-10, 09:51 AM   #1
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First those "new" Russian subs are not much quieter than Akulas as opposed to common belief because Russian R&D base crippled 20 years ago - so Graney and Borey subs are essentially also 1980s to early 1990s vintage technology.

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Second another reports claim China has also acquired Akula's technology which is now introduced in their brand-new designs after finishing development of Delta and Victor III clones. Moreover Chinese progress is very fast while Russians sit idle in their mess and lack of money. All it means both Russia and China are now almost equal in submarine technology but lag about 15-20 years behind the US (Sewolf, Virginia).
Blah Blah Blah.
You know, you wouldn't be able to publish a single book with all the non facts you're telling us.

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Another point is numerical strength of Russian and Chinese nuclear submarine fleets is also far below US/NATO level.
And what does that have to do with technical innovation ?
The 688i are the backbone of the us submarine force, and they are 40 years old. Although they have been upgraded over time, the basic design is almost half a century old. Even the Virginia is a downgrade from the Seawolf class, and only 2 of those were built before the end of the cold war killed the program. Americans are very conservative for instance in weapons design, the russians love to experiment just have a look at their extensive arsenal.
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Old 07-05-10, 10:41 AM   #2
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And what does that have to do with technical innovation ?
The 688i are the backbone of the us submarine force, and they are 40 years old. Although they have been upgraded over time, the basic design is almost half a century old. Even the Virginia is a downgrade from the Seawolf class, and only 2 of those were built before the end of the cold war killed the program. Americans are very conservative for instance in weapons design, the russians love to experiment just have a look at their extensive arsenal.
We built 3 Seawolfs, USS Jimmy Carter SSN-23 was the 3rd.
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Old 07-05-10, 11:20 AM   #3
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We built 3 Seawolfs, USS Jimmy Carter SSN-23 was the 3rd.

My bad. 3 it is then.
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