Virginians can carry in restaurants now - Page 4

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-03-10, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Why would you want to carry a weapon in a restaurant? Shoot the waiter for poor service? Take out the cook if the food sucks?

Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysi...#39;s_massacre

I know one woman reached for her gun but realized it was in her car because she didn't want to bring a gun into the Luby's in the first instance.

If we're going to have firearms freely available, you should be able to freely carry them ANYWHERE except a private establishment which searches you some way before entry (because law breakers will carry no matter what the laws).

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-03-10, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre

Oops, I see you already covered what I just brought up. My bad.

(You know, I heard "My bad" was actually created by Manut Bol, who just died :C)

AVGWarhawk · 07-03-10, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysi...#39;s_massacre

I know one woman reached for her gun but realized it was in her car because she didn't want to bring a gun into the Luby's in the first instance.

If we're going to have firearms freely available, you should be able to freely carry them ANYWHERE except a private establishment which searches you some way before entry (because law breakers will carry no matter what the laws).

Ahem...two incidents in a restaurant do not a gun party make. For that matter you are painting a picture that everyone should be packing a weapon just to eat a burger. If that is the case we all should just stay home in fear of getting blasted over a plate of fries.

TheSatyr · 07-03-10, 07:58 AM

My personal feeling is and always will be that the second amendment is an archaic law that should have been repealed when the USA decided to have a standing army.

The second amendment specifically refers to "well regulated militias" which were needed pre-standing army. The idea that everybody should be able to have a gun is a bastardization of that amendment IMHO.

And no,I'm not a Liberal. I'm a MOR Republican...you know...the ones the right wing whackos want to remove from the party...heh.

Sailor Steve · 07-03-10, 09:47 AM

I believe you're missing the important point that the very reason for the militia clause is that a standing army was what they feared most. The standing army is owned by, and subject to, the Federal Government. This includes the National Guard.

And worries over possible abuses by the Federal Government is the reason for the Bill Of Rights in the first place.

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-03-10, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Ahem...two incidents in a restaurant do not a gun party make. For that matter you are painting a picture that everyone should be packing a weapon just to eat a burger. If that is the case we all should just stay home in fear of getting blasted over a plate of fries.

EVERYBODY SHOULD CARRY A FIREARM!!! Me, you, nuns, preschoolers, puppies, et al. ALL OF US!!!

longam · 07-03-10, 05:03 PM

I keep picturing a punk coming in to get the cash from the register, and about 4 or 5 packin citizens decide there going to be the hero and save the day. Everyone Duck!

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-03-10, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by longam

I keep picturing a punk coming in to get the cash from the register, and about 4 or 5 packin citizens decide there going to be the hero and save the day. Everyone Duck!

I just can't wait for "Shotguns and Liquor" night at the ballpark!!!

07-03-10, 07:43 PM

Maybe this would be a good thing.

U-104 · 07-04-10, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Why would you want to carry a weapon in a restaurant? Shoot the waiter for poor service? Take out the cook if the food sucks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

yes why on earth would you want to.

opps Torvald Von Mansee got it first.

TLAM Strike · 07-04-10, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

EVERYBODY SHOULD CARRY A FIREARM!!! Me, you, nuns, preschoolers, puppies, et al. ALL OF US!!!

"An armed society is a polite society"
-Robert A. Heinlein.

Task Force · 07-04-10, 03:26 PM

This should be intresting...

Torvald Von Mansee · 07-05-10, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by U-104

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

yes why on earth would you want to.

opps Torvald Von Mansee got it first.

And Sailor Steve before me!!

Platapus · 07-05-10, 12:23 PM

There are lots of dead people who truly believed "It could not happen to me"; "No one would shoot people here"; and "Odds are that I will never be in that situation".

raymond6751 · 07-05-10, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Ok...lets head on in to Chuckie Cheese with my "9" just in case you know...someone else is packing......

Does this make sense to you?

I suppose nobody minds taking their wife and kiddies out for a meal knowing that a gun fight could erupt in the dining room? I think I'll go for drive-thru.

07-03-10, 09:47 AM	#50
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I believe you're missing the important point that the very reason for the militia clause is that a standing army was what they feared most. The standing army is owned by, and subject to, the Federal Government. This includes the National Guard. And worries over possible abuses by the Federal Government is the reason for the Bill Of Rights in the first place. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-04-10, 03:26 PM	#57
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	This should be intresting... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-05-10, 12:23 PM	#59
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,405 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	There are lots of dead people who truly believed "It could not happen to me"; "No one would shoot people here"; and "Odds are that I will never be in that situation". __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-03-10, 07:58 AM	#49
TheSatyr Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 545 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My personal feeling is and always will be that the second amendment is an archaic law that should have been repealed when the USA decided to have a standing army. The second amendment specifically refers to "well regulated militias" which were needed pre-standing army. The idea that everybody should be able to have a gun is a bastardization of that amendment IMHO. And no,I'm not a Liberal. I'm a MOR Republican...you know...the ones the right wing whackos want to remove from the party...heh.

07-03-10, 05:03 PM	#52
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I keep picturing a punk coming in to get the cash from the register, and about 4 or 5 packin citizens decide there going to be the hero and save the day. Everyone Duck!

07-03-10, 07:43 PM	#54
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Maybe this would be a good thing.