One ship, one torpedo?

GoldenRivet · 07-01-10, 07:38 PM

i routinely have to pound 3 torpedoes into any cargo ship, large or small just to slow it down

i cant imagine anyone getting one hit kills in SH5.

i think it is something i have only experienced once since release.

in SH3 i constantly managed to sink cargo ships with 2 or fewer hits. if anything SH5's warheads are too weak

pythos · 07-01-10, 07:42 PM

I get one shot kills all the time. It is just it takes a VERY long time for such a hit to sink. If the hit is amid ships the ship will stop due to engine damage.

I also have some mods installed that address this problem.

IanC · 07-01-10, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pythos

I get one shot kills all the time. It is just it takes a VERY long time for such a hit to sink. If the hit is amid ships the ship will stop due to engine damage.

I also have some mods installed that address this problem.

Yes cause I heard the stock ships don't slow down when damaged in SH5...

Ducimus · 07-01-10, 09:28 PM

I have to say, im dumbfounded by the comments that ships are taking too long to sink, or using too many torpedo's.

Call me old school if you want, but i thought getting away from 1 hit wonders all the time was the general goal. In SH3 and SH4, people busted their asses to get ships to sink more realistically, and/or require more torpedo's to put down. (IE elimnation of 1 hit wonder torpedos).And from the sounds of things, SH5 is modeling ship damage much better out of the box then the previous two games. So i don't quite understand the complaints.

Truthfully, every time i see someone use or want more powerful torpedo's, a frown comes to my face, and im reminded of when i was a newbie playing SH3 before all the supermods. I sat there trying my damndest to hit ships in their critical location to get the big boom and be the utmost efficient with my torpedos. Yeah, i sat there reloading the game until i got the hit i wanted with autoTDC enabled, using the rec manual to target critical compartments (stock game allowed you to do that. Nobody probably remembers this). Total and complete noobville. More powerful torpedo's indeed.

GoldenRivet · 07-01-10, 09:35 PM

yes you are right... for realism sake there would be less one hit wonders.

however here is the problem.

You hit a ship and it steams along at 12 knots under escort... your not catching the damned thing.

and when it sails off into the sunset - even if it sinks 3 hours later outside of visual range

YOU DONT GET CREDIT

factos of life but its a bummer.

If you torpedo a ship and its bow digs 25 feet down into the ocean and it is laden with sea water... the bastard ought to slow down i would think.

but thats just me thinking again - frequently gets me into trouble.

i use the same tactic with SH5 as i did with previous editions. Send a spread of two fish at anything over 5,000 grt.

this strategy does not seem to do me much good in SH5.

Ducimus · 07-01-10, 09:38 PM

If mechanics from SH3 and SH4 still hold true, hit it in the keel damage zone. It'll sink every time.

GoldenRivet · 07-01-10, 09:39 PM

on another note: I hit a ship in convoy and it stopped.

the entire GD convoy escorts and all proceeded to spend the next 24 hours circling the stricken merchant

Whiskey

Tango

Foxtrot

IanC · 07-01-10, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

on another note: I hit a ship in convoy and it stopped.

the entire GD convoy escorts and all proceeded to spend the next 24 hours circling the stricken merchant

Whiskey

Tango

Foxtrot

maybe the King of England was onboard?

Moeceefus · 07-02-10, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

yes you are right... for realism sake there would be less one hit wonders.

however here is the problem.

You hit a ship and it steams along at 12 knots under escort... your not catching the damned thing.

and when it sails off into the sunset - even if it sinks 3 hours later outside of visual range

YOU DONT GET CREDIT

factos of life but its a bummer.

If you torpedo a ship and its bow digs 25 feet down into the ocean and it is laden with sea water... the bastard ought to slow down i would think.

but thats just me thinking again - frequently gets me into trouble.

i use the same tactic with SH5 as i did with previous editions. Send a spread of two fish at anything over 5,000 grt.

this strategy does not seem to do me much good in SH5.

brf and damage assessment solves this.

Arclight · 07-02-10, 10:05 AM

Pretty much. Still no 1 hit wonders every time though, that was never the aim. 2-3 on average, 1-2 for the small merchants and tankers, 3-4 for the large tankers.

07-01-10, 07:38 PM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i routinely have to pound 3 torpedoes into any cargo ship, large or small just to slow it down i cant imagine anyone getting one hit kills in SH5. i think it is something i have only experienced once since release. in SH3 i constantly managed to sink cargo ships with 2 or fewer hits. if anything SH5's warheads are too weak __________________

07-01-10, 09:35 PM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	yes you are right... for realism sake there would be less one hit wonders. however here is the problem. You hit a ship and it steams along at 12 knots under escort... your not catching the damned thing. and when it sails off into the sunset - even if it sinks 3 hours later outside of visual range YOU DONT GET CREDIT factos of life but its a bummer. If you torpedo a ship and its bow digs 25 feet down into the ocean and it is laden with sea water... the bastard ought to slow down i would think. but thats just me thinking again - frequently gets me into trouble. i use the same tactic with SH5 as i did with previous editions. Send a spread of two fish at anything over 5,000 grt. this strategy does not seem to do me much good in SH5. __________________

07-01-10, 09:39 PM	#7
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	on another note: I hit a ship in convoy and it stopped. the entire GD convoy escorts and all proceeded to spend the next 24 hours circling the stricken merchant Whiskey Tango Foxtrot __________________

07-02-10, 10:05 AM	#10
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Pretty much. Still no 1 hit wonders every time though, that was never the aim. 2-3 on average, 1-2 for the small merchants and tankers, 3-4 for the large tankers. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

07-01-10, 07:42 PM	#2
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	I get one shot kills all the time. It is just it takes a VERY long time for such a hit to sink. If the hit is amid ships the ship will stop due to engine damage. I also have some mods installed that address this problem.

07-01-10, 09:28 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I have to say, im dumbfounded by the comments that ships are taking too long to sink, or using too many torpedo's. Call me old school if you want, but i thought getting away from 1 hit wonders all the time was the general goal. In SH3 and SH4, people busted their asses to get ships to sink more realistically, and/or require more torpedo's to put down. (IE elimnation of 1 hit wonder torpedos).And from the sounds of things, SH5 is modeling ship damage much better out of the box then the previous two games. So i don't quite understand the complaints. Truthfully, every time i see someone use or want more powerful torpedo's, a frown comes to my face, and im reminded of when i was a newbie playing SH3 before all the supermods. I sat there trying my damndest to hit ships in their critical location to get the big boom and be the utmost efficient with my torpedos. Yeah, i sat there reloading the game until i got the hit i wanted with autoTDC enabled, using the rec manual to target critical compartments (stock game allowed you to do that. Nobody probably remembers this). Total and complete noobville. More powerful torpedo's indeed.

07-01-10, 09:38 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If mechanics from SH3 and SH4 still hold true, hit it in the keel damage zone. It'll sink every time.