Gun Violence and the outlawing of firearms in America

Dutch · 07-01-10, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I ran a test some years ago, with a couple of my personal firearms. One was an AR-15, the other an SKS. I loaded both and put them on the back porch of my rural home under the watchful eye of a DVR video camera. For one week, the firearms sat there on the back porch, fully loaded... seven days.

During those seven days, neither gun ever attempted to kill anyone.

they both lay there, behaving in a peaceful manner, never acting in aggression or making any movement whatsoever.

however...

in that same seven day period, 18 people were arrested for DUI, 3 for reckless driving, 1 for endangerment of a child, 4 for methamphetamine possession, 15 for shoplifting and 1 for domestic abuse.

personally, it makes more sense to outlaw idiots than it does guns.

This is what the Republican party has been trying to tell the idiot democrats for decades. Its either entirely to simple for them, or entirely to complicated because they still haven't figured it out. But I think its because they do not want to listen.

tater · 07-01-10, 10:24 AM

The stats posted by OTH are of course very misleading.

"Children" means minors. The vast majority of those firearms deaths of children are closer to 18 years old. Gangbangers, etc. Regardless of age, the vast majority of children who are hurt or killed as a result of fire arms are criminals, or children of criminals (or living in a home with a criminal).

That relates to the CDC claim that far higher US deaths occur under age 15.

Criminal kids at home with other kids that may, or may not be criminals. Older, criminal kid (or criminal parent) leaves loaded gun around (if they were responsible they'd not have had kids in the first place in their economic situation), kid gets killed playing with it.

When you look at a suburban demographic, US stats look like Europe—though slightly higher. When you look at a 3d world demographic in the US, the rate looks 3d world.

Ban having kids without a dad married to the mom, and you'll see a better reduction, frankly (since the bulk of US firearms deaths come from firearms that are illegally owned, anyway (kids of any age, felons, etc, may not purchase firearms in the US).

07-01-10, 10:24 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The stats posted by OTH are of course very misleading. "Children" means minors. The vast majority of those firearms deaths of children are closer to 18 years old. Gangbangers, etc. Regardless of age, the vast majority of children who are hurt or killed as a result of fire arms are criminals, or children of criminals (or living in a home with a criminal). That relates to the CDC claim that far higher US deaths occur under age 15. Criminal kids at home with other kids that may, or may not be criminals. Older, criminal kid (or criminal parent) leaves loaded gun around (if they were responsible they'd not have had kids in the first place in their economic situation), kid gets killed playing with it. When you look at a suburban demographic, US stats look like Europe—though slightly higher. When you look at a 3d world demographic in the US, the rate looks 3d world. Ban having kids without a dad married to the mom, and you'll see a better reduction, frankly (since the bulk of US firearms deaths come from firearms that are illegally owned, anyway (kids of any age, felons, etc, may not purchase firearms in the US).