The President has a new enemy...

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by thorn69

If that's what it takes to get them out then that's what it takes. Do you have a better solution? Because from where I'm sitting, it looks like it's going to be them or us! There really is no other option. We've tried peace and peace isn't working. The only other alternative is to get downright violent about it. People seem to react a little faster when guns start popping out.

They tried this in the past, during a little crisis now known as The Inquisition. It was wholy ineffective, and only served to further erode the power of those it was meant to protect. Or do you intend to accomplish this as a vigilante, with death squads and all that?

EDIT: I wonder if Homeland Security is reading this thread yet.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by thorn69

If that's what it takes to get them out then that's what it takes. Do you have a better solution? Because from where I'm sitting, it looks like it's going to be them or us! There really is no other option. We've tried peace and peace isn't working. The only other alternative is to get downright violent about it. People seem to react a little faster when guns start popping out.

Yeah, gunshots do have a way of grabbing attention. The last thing we need right now though is a minuteman army that's brimming with rage. I can totally understand where you're coming from, but if anything it would do our country a lot more harm than good. Look at it this way: if American citizens took up arms and started gunning down illegal immigrants, wouldn't that play right into the hands of the people who really, really hate America? Al Jazeera, Iran, Venezuela, every detractor to the American way of life would have a field day with that! Something should indeed be done, but not that way.

Originally Posted by Subnuts

Stop dancing around the "eradication" bit and tell us what your solution is. Should we throw illegal immigrants in a ditch, fill it with gasoline, and throw a match? Tie them to posts and use them for bayonet practice? Perform medical experiments on them, and then shoot them in the back of the head?

Or do you just plan on "eradicating" them?

You give them an alternative - Go back to your homeland. You have 30 days to do so. If you don't we will have no choice but to execute you by firing squad. If you come back here, there will be no 30 day grace period. Instant execution on the spot.

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by MrYenko

The shrill screams of racism and profiling are from people who have never bothered to read it,

So it's kind of like the health care reform bill.

[August]

Originally Posted by thorn69

First off, I'm a legal US citizen. I'm also a veteran. This is MY country. I am not being racist by wanting to protect what's mine! If a criminal moved into YOUR house, ate your food, impregnated your daughter, didn't pay you crap for any of it and left you to foot his bill, would you be all peachy about that? I didn't think so.

So what? I'm a US citizen born and raised, and a veteran too, so this is every bit my country as it is yours and if you actually do try to carry out your threat to eradicate human beings then i'd be happy to sit on your jury and vote to put you in a little tiny cell for the next 70-80 years. So hows about that Mr "Veteran"?

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Ah okay. I'll need to fetch my foil hat out of the basement then. I didn't know I'd be needing it today. That damn New World Order is at it again, eh?

You'll look a-bit silly dressed like that but, enjoy yourself.

[Subnuts]

Originally Posted by thorn69

You give them an alternative - Go back to your homeland. You have 30 days to do so. If you don't we will have no choice but to execute you by firing squad. If you come back here, there will be no 30 day grace period. Instant execution on the spot.

So how does one go about recruiting these 21st century Einsatzkommandoes?

[Morts]

Originally Posted by thorn69

You give them an alternative - Go back to your homeland. You have 30 days to do so. If you don't we will have no choice but to execute you by firing squad. If you come back here, there will be no 30 day grace period. Instant execution on the spot.

you're one sick and twisted person

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by thorn69

Remember the native American? I sure don't. That's how effective violence can be and what should be done here.

Wow. You and I are not of the same culture.

I always wondered what they meant in my oath "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

You must be what they were referring to as a domestic enemy.

Now I know.

[krashkart]

Remember the native American? I sure don't. That's how effective violence can be and what should be done here.

Take a hike, brother. This here is race traitor territory.

Originally Posted by Platapus

Wow. You and I are not of the same culture.

I always wondered what they meant in my oath "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

You must be what they were referring to as a domestic enemy.

Now I know.

Exactly! "Support and defend the CONSTITUTION"! Not the ILLEGAL immigrant!

And where exactly does it state in the US constitution that ILLEGAL immigrants have any rights at all? I sure don't see it written anywhere!

And why are US tax payer dollars being used to defend these ILLEGAL people in an effort to allow them to stay here? Where in the US constitution does it state they have a right to a fair and speedy trial or a lawyer for that matter? Those are rights reserved for US citizens and people with the proper credentials to be here.

You don't seem to realize that THEY are the enemy! They are trespassing on YOUR land and stealing YOUR money!

I'm sorry, but when the deer eats your crops do you just except that and starve or do you reach for the 12-gauge and save your crops? This is really no different.

We've offered these people chance after chance after chance to do the right thing and get registered to be here legally but they've refused and only helped more and more illegals invade this country. We are being invaded. We know this and yet we still refuse to do anything about it. Instead, people are excepting it and willing to watch everything their ancestors fought and died for be stolen from them and erased through a form of genocide called "population replacement".

We either allow them to crowd and sink our boat or we kick them out by any means necessary to save the ones that have a legitimate pass to be onboard!

So it wouldn't be considered genocide because not one group of people would be targeted.

So that explains it, you are simply insane.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So that explains it, you are simply insane.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But Obama is going to bring in martial law, cancel elections, open the borders and going to force all hispanics to vote for him in canceled elections under martial law that might also be sharia law as he is foriegn and a muslim as well as being a traitor and a communist who is under big business and the global media conspiracy...so really there is no choice but to take up arms

You sure do seem to be the pot calling the kettle black!

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by thorn69

And where exactly does it state in the US constitution that ILLEGAL immigrants have any rights at all? I sure don't see it written anywhere!

The reason you don't understand is that you are ignorant of how laws and policy are made in the United States. The Constitution only serves as a basis for our laws, policies, rules, and regulations. In researching the applicable laws, policies, rules, and regulations you start with the Constitution, not end there.

In order to understand this issue, it will be necessary for you to educate yourself on the Appellate and Supreme Court decisions (both state and local) concerning the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. Two cases which would be a good start for you would be

United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649 (1898)

Plyler v Doe, 457 US 202 (1982)

As they both address (differently) the case of non-citizens having rights.

I would recommend also that you spend some time learning about the different court interpretations of Equal Protection Clause also of the 14th Amendment.

After you do that, I am sure you will learn that this is not a dichotomous issue as you originally thought.

Good luck with this.

Nice quote.
its obviously well beyond your ken