OK, I'm stumped! You folks ID this!

[NeonSamurai]

I do think I see mounting points for a rudder on it though, there looks to be a hole for the rudder just aft of the vertical fin on the underside that it would be attached to, plus the 4 holes (I assume on each side) on that fin for support mountings.

As for dive planes I can't see any sign of mounting points anywhere on the aft of the sub, though there may have been planes just below the torpedo tubes on the bow. There are hole(s) just below the tubes, and a set of brackets above the tube.

I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I wonder though if this was a full scale prototype that didn't not go any further in development. I still can't see any trace of a propulsion system though, or support brackets for propulsion, though I do wonder what those square cutouts just in front of the rudder fin are.

Maybe a mock-up? Too bad there's no pictures looking inside.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

Maybe a mock-up? Too bad there's no pictures looking inside.

Yeah, it might be a mock up. Agreed, I do not see props. The rudder is welded right to the body of the submarine. No evidence of actual planes. The hand rail around the sail looks odd to me. Probably a hollow shell

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The hand rail around the sail looks odd to me.

If you look the ends of the railing are open and look a little off, but they might have just been unfinished. But some other details just appear somewhat shoddy and unlike what you might expect to see on a working submarine...

[AVGWarhawk]

I think it is a Bulgarian submarine that might have plied the waters of the Black Sea.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think it is a Bulgarian submarine that might have plied the waters of the Black Sea.

I thought that too, Soviet Malyutka-class from WWII. But its too short, the sail is in the wrong spot and it appears to only have 2 tubes (it could have four but where would the engines go?)


Unless you are talking about some other boat, the only Bulgarian subs I've found were one in WWI, this, whiskeys and romeos.

[gimpy117]

looks like a "Sea-wolf-fodder" class

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin

If you look the ends of the railing are open and look a little off, but they might have just been unfinished. But some other details just appear somewhat shoddy and unlike what you might expect to see on a working submarine...

I'm sure those rails are just added on to keep visitors from falling off, and not the sea-going set-up.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I'm sure those rails are just added on to keep visitors from falling off, and not the sea-going set-up.

Or there's always that