Saint Cindy demands US end occupation of New Orleans

[Torpedo Fodder]

Sheehan's Blog

"George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power."

If there was ANY doubt before that this woman is a complete headcase, there isn't now. Your 15 minutes of fame are up Cindy, it's time to stop attention whoring and MoveOn with your life.

[Type941]

Torpedo Fodder, she being a mother who lost a child in iraq - may be it's better not to say anything at all, than call her a headcase.

Democrats and extreme left are using her, they shoud be a focus of any rants. She has a right to her opinion, but again and again in the US it seems that someone who dares to criticise Bush is a headcase.

[Torpedo Fodder]

Originally Posted by Type941

Torpedo Fodder, she being a mother who lost a child in iraq - may be it's better not to say anything at all, than call her a headcase.

I'm sorry, but anyone who calls the presence of US troops in New Orleans an 'occupation' and demands their withdrawal is hard to describe as anything but a headcase. Remember that Sheehan also earlier suggested that the US orcistrated the Iraq war on behalf of Israel.

[Type941]

Full paragraph so you read it in context.

t is a Christ-like principle to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and shelter the homeless. That's what is happening in Algiers and other places in Louisiana...but by the people of America, not the so-called "Christians" in charge. If George Bush truly listened to God and read the words of the Christ, Iraq and the devastation in New Orleans would have never happened.
I don't care if a human being is black, brown, white, yellow or pink. I don't care if a human being is Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, or pagan. I don't care what flag a person salutes: if a human being is hungry, then it is up to another human being to feed him/her. George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and Iraq, and excuse his self from power. The only way America will become more secure is if we have a new administration that cares about Americans even if they don't fall into the top two percent of the wealthiest.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Type941

Torpedo Fodder, she being a mother who lost a child in iraq - may be it's better not to say anything at all, than call her a headcase.

Exactly. I'd like to know what mr. Bush lost here, other than his credibility

That said, even I'm not naive enough to assume that Bush would or should do something like that; I don't think the political instability would do anyone any good. Besides, it's all-too-obvious to me that the cause of the problem here is NOT Bush personally, but the conservative agenda. Great, now we'd have a right that's not only stupid, but pissed-off (like we don't have enough of that going on to the left of this already)

[Torpedo Fodder]

Originally Posted by Type941

Full paragraph so you read it in context.

How does that change the fact that she's demanding the withdrawal of US troops from NO? Why are you so convieniently ignoring that? I have no respect for her at all. Criticizing Bush is one thing, but Sheehans' act is nothing more than attention whoring. She had no desire to do this until MoveOn offered to fund her. Before that, her description about her first meeting with Bush was actually positive, but now she's completely reversed her opinion. If she isn't lying about that tnow, she was lying then.

[CCIP]

I don't get why the troops are STILL there in the first place. To me that's very indicative of a very fundamental failure on the part of the civil society, but... whatever

[August]

Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

[She had no desire to do this until MoveOn offered to fund her.

I wonder if she realized by signing that contract that she was now making money off the death of her son...

[Abraham]

Thanks for the info, Torpedo Fodder.
She's a mother who lost a son in a far away place, serving his country, like about 1.500 others in the U.S. and hundreds in Great Britain, Australia, Italy, Poland, Holland, Korea and so on.
Most of those mothers behaved with dignity but she wanted her 15 minutes of glory and she was smart enough to use her sons death for political reasons and capitalise on it and not just politically (I mean really making money!) without asking his permission first!
Well, her opinion really clears things up after hurricane Kathrina:
If Bush doesn't send the National Guard in immediately - which he is not allowed without the Govenors request - he is at fault;
If Bush does not withdraw the National Guard immediately - without the request of the Govenor - he's occupying New Orleans.
:rotfl:
A classic case of: head up, I win, head down, you lose...

I can't believe my very eyes and checked it again.
Yes, there it is, on the end of her message:
Bush is occupying New Orleans and Cindy wants him the withdraw (and to withdraw from office, for that matter).
Disgusting, nuts, fake, crazy, lunatic, anti-semitic, certifiable for 100%... are words that come to my mind.
Poor woman...

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by CCIP

I don't get why the troops are STILL there in the first place. To me that's very indicative of a very fundamental failure on the part of the civil society, but... whatever

Because if he pulled the Federal troops out the media, naacp, and every other person would raise hell saying he's doing it too early.
IMO they are where they need to be until the govenor and mayor say they don't need them anymore.
As far as Sheehan I think she is beginning to be manipulated by MoveOn and whatever other orginization has their thumb in the pie so cut her some slack.

[Type941]

Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

How does that change the fact that she's demanding the withdrawal of US troops from NO?

I just posted the whole paragraph because it's better to see the qoute from the passage in context, rather than just a single qoute. No undercontext.

There are many people in the world who think this war was illegal and fought for the wrong reasons, so deal with it. Calling someone for that a nutcase shows the level of dialogue one is allowed to have in the US these days. I've heard a term AA many times lately (Anti American) but beware of another group - that of American Nationalist - who attack with such vengence those who dare to say anything bad about Bush - because it's not patriotic!!!

When anyone with a brain knows that just by expressing an view that's different to that of an official administration doesn't make you unpatriotic.

[Abraham]

Originally Posted by bradclark1

Because if he pulled the Federal troops out the media, naacp, and every other person would raise hell saying he's doing it too early.
IMO they are where they need to be until the govenor and mayor say they don't need them anymore.
As far as Sheehan I think she is beginning to be manipulated by MoveOn and whatever other orginization has their thumb in the pie so cut her some slack.

I guess you're right on target.

[caspofungin]

Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

I have no respect for her at all.

If you listen to GW, her son died to preserve her ability, her right, to speak freely. She's doing what she believes is right -- just because her opinion doen't coincide with your doesn't make her crazy -- or anti-semitic? where'd that come from?

[August]

Originally Posted by caspofungin

If you listen to GW, her son died to preserve her ability, her right, to speak freely. She's doing what she believes is right -- just because her opinion doen't coincide with your doesn't make her crazy -- or anti-semitic? where'd that come from?

She's doing more than exercising her right to free speech. She's making money off the death of her son. While certainly not illegal it is kinda revealing don't you think?

[caspofungin]

there's plenty of people making money off the war in iraq specifically, and the war on terror in general.

making money off the death of your own son vs making money off the death of other people's sons -- which is worse?