Direct US costs for wars since 2001 surpass 1 trillion

Skybird · 06-05-10, 02:43 AM

Money well spent. Money well spent...?
http://www.costofwar.com/

Where the state's money comes from (57 cent of every dollar spent, are new debts, 34 Cent are income taxes, 5% are corporate taxes) - and what it is spent for.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/taxday2010

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/

Lord_magerius · 06-05-10, 02:59 AM

*Thinks of a way to get that counter rolling into his bank account*

Alpha Von Burg · 06-05-10, 08:37 AM

"WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives..."

1933, Major General Smedley Butler, USMC

06-05-10, 08:50 AM

I wonder how many Americans would want to erase the wars and have that trillion still available.

06-05-10, 12:21 PM

I wonder how long before The Great Implosion.

Platapus · 06-05-10, 01:10 PM

What if they gave a war and no one came?

Schroeder · 06-05-10, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

What if they gave a war and no one came?

The industry would be very disappointed.

Oberon · 06-05-10, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

The industry would be very disappointed.

August · 06-05-10, 06:44 PM

I'm still waiting delivery of my barrel of Iraqi oil.

Platapus · 06-05-10, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I'm still waiting delivery of my barrel of Iraqi oil.

I think it is in the hands of the Iraqis who would be greeting us as liberators.

Blood_splat · 06-05-10, 11:12 PM

Ducimus · 06-07-10, 03:59 PM

On the question of , is it all worth it? IMO the opinions that matters most, are the ones coming from the the people that did their time there. Rest of us were not there, and are just armchair politician/generals. So we wouldn't really know.

Bilge_Rat · 06-07-10, 04:38 PM

Lets look at the Iraq war:

-it was supposed to turn a profit, current cost: $725 Billion;

-4,000+ US dead, 25,000+ US wounded;

-estimated 100,000 Iraqi dead;

-estimated 4,700,000 Iraqi refugees (2.7 in Iraq, 2.0 in neighboring countries);

-no WMDs found;

-few oil contracts awarded to US Oil company, no long term Oil supply garantees;

-Iran will probably have more long-term influence in Iraq than USA, although this may be debatable;

-situation in the ME as volatile as ever;

Was it worth it? probably not based on those numbers, but then hindsight is always 20/20.

........

Although if you follow Cheney's rationale, the real reason the US went in to Afghanistan and Iraq was to show that any 9/11 type attack on US soil would be met by a massive retaliation, so lets add:

-no successful foreign terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11;

Again, was it worth it?

On the other hand, would any of this have happened if 3,000 innocent civilians had not died on 9/11?

AVGWarhawk · 06-07-10, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I wonder how many Americans would want to erase the wars and have that trillion still available.

Yeah...the US could buy Finland

AVGWarhawk · 06-07-10, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I'm still waiting delivery of my barrel of Iraqi oil.

Not holding my breath.

06-05-10, 02:43 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,671 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Direct US costs for wars since 2001 surpass 1 trillion Money well spent. Money well spent...? http://www.costofwar.com/ Where the state's money comes from (57 cent of every dollar spent, are new debts, 34 Cent are income taxes, 5% are corporate taxes) - and what it is spent for. http://www.nationalpriorities.org/taxday2010 http://www.nationalpriorities.org/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Lord_magerius Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Right by the hydrophone station Posts: 724 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	Thinks of a way to get that counter rolling into his bank account __________________

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Alpha Von Burg Engineer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Unknown Posts: 202 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	"WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives..." 1933, Major General Smedley Butler, USMC __________________ -Kapitänleutnant Richard L. Römer

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	What if they gave a war and no one came? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,217 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm still waiting delivery of my barrel of Iraqi oil. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I wonder how many Americans would want to erase the wars and have that trillion still available.

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Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I wonder how long before The Great Implosion.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	On the question of , is it all worth it? IMO the opinions that matters most, are the ones coming from the the people that did their time there. Rest of us were not there, and are just armchair politician/generals. So we wouldn't really know.

06-07-10, 04:38 PM	#13
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Lets look at the Iraq war: -it was supposed to turn a profit, current cost: $725 Billion; -4,000+ US dead, 25,000+ US wounded; -estimated 100,000 Iraqi dead; -estimated 4,700,000 Iraqi refugees (2.7 in Iraq, 2.0 in neighboring countries); -no WMDs found; -few oil contracts awarded to US Oil company, no long term Oil supply garantees; -Iran will probably have more long-term influence in Iraq than USA, although this may be debatable; -situation in the ME as volatile as ever; Was it worth it? probably not based on those numbers, but then hindsight is always 20/20. ........ Although if you follow Cheney's rationale, the real reason the US went in to Afghanistan and Iraq was to show that any 9/11 type attack on US soil would be met by a massive retaliation, so lets add: -no successful foreign terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11; Again, was it worth it? On the other hand, would any of this have happened if 3,000 innocent civilians had not died on 9/11? __________________