Dumb DD's even in TMO lol

[Bubblehead1980]

January 1942, USS Plunger off Kii Suido.Attacked a convoy entering Kii Suido I spotted while conducted daylight submerged patrol in the actual channel.Managed to hit a Hakusika Maru with two fish and a Ryunn Maru with one, other prematurely exploded.The Hakuksikas bow flooded and she went under bow first.I then went to 165 feet and silent running.The Two DD's came close but never even pinged me or dropped charges.Seas were heavy but still, their performance was lackluster, even with the "harder escorts" patch Ducimus whipped up a while back attached, they just didnt pick me up, even when i went to scope depth to check and they were nearby.Early DD's are just too easy, even in TMO

[G2B]

I must have an engine knock or the vibrations from the ice cream machine, I'm still in December 41 and have a hard time not being pinged TMO RSRD

[Admiral8Q]

I'm not sure how it's programed, but maybe you lucked out. Perhaps their active sonar was useless in that weather and since they didn't really have an idea where you were they sat there trying to get anything on passives. Also yes they may seem easier in the early war, and it usually is, but I got stung real bad once and made a post about it.

[Rockin Robbins]

Escorts have a skill rating from 0 to 4. Ducimus began by eliminating all the fours because those are unshakable. That's why running stock or RFB you'll run into the occasional DD from hell. The rest of the escorts have a distribution of the skills, with more of them threes than anything else.

But you can still run into a dufus or two. It's actually fun after you identify them!

[treblesum81]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Escorts have a skill rating from 0 to 4. Ducimus began by eliminating all the fours because those are unshakable. That's why running stock or RFB you'll run into the occasional DD from hell. The rest of the escorts have a distribution of the skills, with more of them threes than anything else.

But you can still run into a dufus or two. It's actually fun after you identify them!

DD's are individually identifiable? I mean I know they have numbers (at least I think they do), but I thought escorts were randomly generated to fit the convoy parameters?

[WarlordATF]

The campaign is broken up into years in the campaign files. The ships are generated randomly, however they are limited to whatever skill level they are set to for a given year. In 1941-42 escorts are pretty easy with the occasional skilled crew aboard. As the war progresses the skills improve, yet you can still run into poorly skilled escorts once in awhile.

[Gibus]

Period December 1941 to August 1942:
- Escort of convoys merchants: novice.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: competent
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period September 1942 to August 1943:
- Escort of convoys merchants: novice to competent.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: no patrols (in my opinion omission on the part of Ubi)
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period September 1943 to May 1944:
- Escort of convoys merchants: competent to veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period June 1944 to September 1944:
- Escort of convoys merchants: competent to veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period October 1944 to August 1945:
- Escort of convoys merchants: veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite. ( Only the convoys to be escorted from Japan. Those returning are not.)

Gibus

[Ducimus]

[Bubblehead1980]

lol ducimus

[Admiral8Q]

Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures,
Grim-visaged war hath smoothed our wrinkled face!

[Overkill]

Thank you, Ducimus. The mod is great!

[Bubblehead1980]

yes TMO is great mod

[Armistead]

I found with heavy sea's you can get by with murder, even later in the war to a degree, but early war count your blessings when you have it. I need those heavy sea's early war for the large Java invasion forces.

[kiwi_2005]

The DD's have the 'split personality' code programmed in them, one minute they're nice and timid some will just sail right pass you while your submerge as if to say hi how ya doing great day isn't it!. Without any warning they go from nice sleepy timid DDS to psychotic nutbars its like you hit a nerve and really pi$$ed them off. Like i attacked a convoy last night not one dd found me its 1944 they were all at the other side of the convoy. Im over here guys! Kinda thing. Sunk 3 ships, nothing. DDs are still sailing round having their tea party. Hit the 4th ship and bang! look through the scope and i got 3 destroyers racing straight for me. Hassled me for what seem like hours before i finally got away. I got pounded. Psychos!

[LooseEnd]

Originally Posted by Gibus

Period December 1941 to August 1942:
- Escort of convoys merchants: novice.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: competent
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period September 1942 to August 1943:
- Escort of convoys merchants: novice to competent.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: no patrols (in my opinion omission on the part of Ubi)
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period September 1943 to May 1944:
- Escort of convoys merchants: competent to veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period June 1944 to September 1944:
- Escort of convoys merchants: competent to veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite

Period October 1944 to August 1945:
- Escort of convoys merchants: veteran.
- Escort groups battle: veteran.
- Patrols ASW: veteran
- Escort of troop transports: elite. ( Only the convoys to be escorted from Japan. Those returning are not.)

Gibus

DDs vary in skill?! TMO just gets better and better!