Shogun 2: Total war!

kiwi_2005 · 06-03-10, 03:40 PM

Shogun 1 played on my Pentium 133mhz, 16mb ram, 4mb 3dfx Voodoo PCI gfx card. Computer already had a 4mb generic gfx card can't remember the name, with the voodoo you could SLI them to your original gfx. All up 8mb. Back then my PC was king.

Shogun 2

Spike88 · 06-03-10, 03:49 PM

I'm guessing this game is going to look awesome. Especially since Napoleon and Empire look great themselves.

NeonSamurai · 06-03-10, 04:34 PM

I just hope they stick to the core of what made STW so great, and keep the highly immersive aspects of that game (or deepen them). Hero units might be a good thing, as long as they are not absurdly overpowered.

I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me.

Castout · 06-03-10, 05:13 PM

Very pleased with the news.

CA don't disappoint us!

Spike88 · 06-06-10, 09:35 AM

I think it's important to remember this is from the pre-Alpha version of the game, so Heroes may be drastically changed or even removed by release.

Skybird · 06-06-10, 02:35 PM

Was waiting for a remake of Shogun since long. Hope they focus on the important things and do a good job with the AI. The original i liked very much. If only they would update the 2D graphics with 3D graphics and fix some quirks in the balancing of the original, I already would be willing to buy it.

No experiments, please.

Deamon · 06-06-10, 04:45 PM

I also look much forward to this. I haven't had shogun though. How was Ninjutsu handled in shogun ?

Takeda Shingen · 06-06-10, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

I also look much forward to this. I haven't had shogun though. How was Ninjutsu handled in shogun ?

Ninjas were exclusively used as assasin units, unless we refer to the battlefield ninjas of the expansions. Espionage units used the shinobi moniker, and functioned like spies in later Total War installments.

Spike88 · 06-06-10, 06:32 PM

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Shogun 2 will focus directly on the daimyo, or clan leaders, like Takeda Shingun or Chosokabe Motochika.

The IGN article spelled Shingen wrong, probably just a typo though.

Deamon · 06-07-10, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Ninjas were exclusively used as assasin units,

Let me guess, as a fairly unsuccessfull assassins ?

Unfortunately no game that deals with the mediaval japan can get this aspect nowhere nearly right.

This aspect is always reduced to assassination that are mostly unsuccessful gambling. In truth, being exceptionally competent, Ninjas were involved into pretty much everything and who didn't had any was doomed to loose. There was a plethora of ryu-ha specialiced in all relevant fields like all sort of special operations, covert actions, guerilla warfare, intelligence gathering/espionage, counter-intelligence, reconnaissance and security services, body guarding, advisory, training of troops, battlefield tactics, fortifications, sciance and so forth. And of course they weren't missing even in conventional engagements.

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unless we refer to the battlefield ninjas of the expansions. Espionage units used the shinobi moniker, and functioned like spies in later Total War installments.

What was the deal with the battle field Ninjas ?

Are you talking about official expansions or community mods ?

Anyway i always wanted an epic japan simulator. I loved Lords of the Rising Sun, back then on the amiga

onelifecrisis · 07-06-10, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me.

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

Raptor1 · 07-06-10, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

It was utterly useless, and you had to pay for it...

NeonSamurai · 07-06-10, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

As was said, it was useless, and overpriced. Main thing I don't like with DLC is it costs too much for what you generally get out of it when compared to the full game. Also most of this DLC content is already made before the game is even released. It's just the companies nickel and dimeing everyone.

Spike88 · 07-28-10, 08:06 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...hogun-2/702267

First video showing the ingame engine.

TheSatyr · 07-28-10, 10:12 PM

Let's see now. I've read the novel "Taiko" plus some Stephen Turnbull books and I've watched a few Kurusawa films...I'm readyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...lol

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Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I'm guessing this game is going to look awesome. Especially since Napoleon and Empire look great themselves. __________________

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I just hope they stick to the core of what made STW so great, and keep the highly immersive aspects of that game (or deepen them). Hero units might be a good thing, as long as they are not absurdly overpowered. I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Very pleased with the news. CA don't disappoint us! __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

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Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I think it's important to remember this is from the pre-Alpha version of the game, so Heroes may be drastically changed or even removed by release. __________________

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,687 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Was waiting for a remake of Shogun since long. Hope they focus on the important things and do a good job with the AI. The original i liked very much. If only they would update the 2D graphics with 3D graphics and fix some quirks in the balancing of the original, I already would be willing to buy it. No experiments, please. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Deamon Commodore Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 642 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I also look much forward to this. I haven't had shogun though. How was Ninjutsu handled in shogun ?

07-28-10, 08:06 PM	#14
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...hogun-2/702267 First video showing the ingame engine. __________________

07-28-10, 10:12 PM	#15
TheSatyr Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 545 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Let's see now. I've read the novel "Taiko" plus some Stephen Turnbull books and I've watched a few Kurusawa films...I'm readyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...lol