Shogun 2: Total war!

Raptor1 · 06-03-10, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Hmmm, not sure I like the idea of the Hero units. Still, imagine the mods, as with a lot of games these days, the mods will save them for the grognards amongst us.

Unless CA pulls the same thing they did with Empire and Napoleon and fail to release mod tools, in which case modding would be pretty rudimentary and never reach the levels that mods for earlier games were.

Oberon · 06-03-10, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Unless CA pulls the same thing they did with Empire and Napoleon and fail to release mod tools, in which case modding would be pretty rudimentary and never reach the levels that mods for earlier games were.

....crap

kiwi_2005 · 06-03-10, 03:40 PM

Shogun 1 played on my Pentium 133mhz, 16mb ram, 4mb 3dfx Voodoo PCI gfx card. Computer already had a 4mb generic gfx card can't remember the name, with the voodoo you could SLI them to your original gfx. All up 8mb. Back then my PC was king.

Shogun 2

Spike88 · 06-03-10, 03:49 PM

I'm guessing this game is going to look awesome. Especially since Napoleon and Empire look great themselves.

NeonSamurai · 06-03-10, 04:34 PM

I just hope they stick to the core of what made STW so great, and keep the highly immersive aspects of that game (or deepen them). Hero units might be a good thing, as long as they are not absurdly overpowered.

I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me.

Castout · 06-03-10, 05:13 PM

Very pleased with the news.

CA don't disappoint us!

Spike88 · 06-06-10, 09:35 AM

I think it's important to remember this is from the pre-Alpha version of the game, so Heroes may be drastically changed or even removed by release.

Skybird · 06-06-10, 02:35 PM

Was waiting for a remake of Shogun since long. Hope they focus on the important things and do a good job with the AI. The original i liked very much. If only they would update the 2D graphics with 3D graphics and fix some quirks in the balancing of the original, I already would be willing to buy it.

No experiments, please.

Deamon · 06-06-10, 04:45 PM

I also look much forward to this. I haven't had shogun though. How was Ninjutsu handled in shogun ?

onelifecrisis · 07-06-10, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me.

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

Raptor1 · 07-06-10, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

It was utterly useless, and you had to pay for it...

NeonSamurai · 07-06-10, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Not to drag things too far off topic, but I'm curious to know why the horse armor was annoying/infamous. I didn't buy it - was it buggy or something?

As was said, it was useless, and overpriced. Main thing I don't like with DLC is it costs too much for what you generally get out of it when compared to the full game. Also most of this DLC content is already made before the game is even released. It's just the companies nickel and dimeing everyone.

iambecomelife · 06-05-10, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Unless CA pulls the same thing they did with Empire and Napoleon and fail to release mod tools, in which case modding would be pretty rudimentary and never reach the levels that mods for earlier games were.

I agree. I'm working on an Empire TW mod that's stalled due to lack of modding tools. Some developers seem to be of the opinion that their resources should be jealously guarded, & that that way they can make more money.
Never mind that I (& many others) wouldn't have bought mediocre games like CFS3 if it weren't for the excellent 3rd party additions created by amateurs.

Also, I have little interest in early Asian history & the idea of hero units contradicts the very nature of most warfare (success due to collective action, as opposed to individual heroics). I think I'll pass on this one.

NeonSamurai · 06-05-10, 09:17 PM

Hero units (legendary samurai) though do fit in with the history, though teasing apart actual history from legend can be difficult.

Dowly · 06-05-10, 09:26 PM

RTW with Europa Barbarorum mod had captains that could rise to be generals and they could be asked to go to Rome for triumph to their honor if they did well. I hope the hero units will be something like that.

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Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I'm guessing this game is going to look awesome. Especially since Napoleon and Empire look great themselves. __________________

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I just hope they stick to the core of what made STW so great, and keep the highly immersive aspects of that game (or deepen them). Hero units might be a good thing, as long as they are not absurdly overpowered. I have to say though I have really grown to despise the preorder and DLC stuff. I don't mind decent addons, but DLC like the infamous Horse Armor from Oblivion annoys me. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	Very pleased with the news. CA don't disappoint us! __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

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Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I think it's important to remember this is from the pre-Alpha version of the game, so Heroes may be drastically changed or even removed by release. __________________

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Was waiting for a remake of Shogun since long. Hope they focus on the important things and do a good job with the AI. The original i liked very much. If only they would update the 2D graphics with 3D graphics and fix some quirks in the balancing of the original, I already would be willing to buy it. No experiments, please. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Deamon Commodore Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 642 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I also look much forward to this. I haven't had shogun though. How was Ninjutsu handled in shogun ?

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Hero units (legendary samurai) though do fit in with the history, though teasing apart actual history from legend can be difficult. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	RTW with Europa Barbarorum mod had captains that could rise to be generals and they could be asked to go to Rome for triumph to their honor if they did well. I hope the hero units will be something like that.