Report: Israel attacks flotilla, 10 die

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

How is stabbing someone in the back non-lethal force?

Dude, attack my house at night and I'll gladly stab you in the face.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Dude, attack my house at night and I'll gladly stab you in the face.

What if you are being attacked by the authorities for doing something illegal?

just hypothetical question

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

What if you are being attacked by the authorities for doing something illegal?

just hypothetical question

You mean illegal like having building material etc.? Err...duh.

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

Maybe so, but would you call that non-lethal force? Stay on topic!!

Well at that point you'd be having a major head ache due to the fact that you'd have a Finnish puukko up it's hilt lodged in your face. But not necessarily in your brain though so you'd be very much alive. Then I'd break out a pair of pliers and a blowtorch...

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

You mean illegal like having building material etc.? Err...duh.

no.

let me make it easier for you...

If the police came to your house - or better yet - lets say if the police pulled you over and suspected that your vehicle contained drugs and drug paraphernalia - what would your natural reaction be?

A. Speed off into a high speed pursuit

B. Cooperate fully - knowing the officer will see that your little baggies of cocaine are actually little baggies of sugar and let you go

C. Stab, hit, bite, kick the officers



dont put a spin on it... just answer the hypothetical question its simple even!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

no.

let me make it easier for you...

If the police came to your house - or better yet - lets say if the police pulled you over and suspected that your vehicle contained drugs and drug paraphernalia - what would your natural reaction be?

A. Speed off into a high speed pursuit

B. Cooperate fully - knowing the officer will see that your little baggies of cocaine are actually little baggies of sugar and let you go

C. Stab, hit, bite, kick the officers



dont put a spin on it... just answer the hypothetical question its simple even!

They need to send the Portland (or-gone) po-lice overthere to enforce this. They have shot and killed more people in the last year for resisting arrest. So when you get pulled over, naturally, you pull a knife.

And on a side note, are these the same kind of protesters they have in Iraq (also known as re-inforcements.) I say let the Germans enforce the Naval blockade as they have a pretty good resume on naval blockades.

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

You mean illegal like having building material etc.? Err...duh.



Well at that point you'd be having a major head ache due to the fact that you'd have a Finnish puukko up it's hilt lodged in your face. But not necessarily in your brain though so you'd be very much alive. Then I'd break out a pair of pliers and a blowtorch...

I hate to tell you this, but just because someone might only be wounded in an attack doesn't make it NOT deadly force. If you're using a weapon that can kill someone... whether it's a gun, knife, even a bludgeon, it's deadly force even if the effect or intent was only to wound.

[tater]

GR, great question. Make it a little more clear. You have done nothing wrong, and you know it. The police pull you over BY MISTAKE. Then how do you act?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by tater

GR, great question. Make it a little more clear. You have done nothing wrong, and you know it. The police pull you over BY MISTAKE. Then how do you act?

Well, rule number one: Civility goes a LOOOOOOONG way with police officers, MPs and other authority figures (just ask Jimbuna)

I would pull over into a well lighted and populated area, and assuming it was dark, illuminate all of the interior lights of the vehicle, place both hands on the steering wheel and follow all of the instructions given by the officer(s).

at which point it would slowly but surely be discovered that im not the droids they're looking for

What's with the police-examples? Are you trying to imply that the Israelis are like the world's policemen? Wasn't that Ah-mu-ri-ca's job? Shouldn't you call the Israelis the world's deputy policemen, or something?

Oh hi Steamwake, how's that oil slick - thing going? Sucessfull?

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

I hate to tell you this, but just because someone might only be wounded in an attack doesn't make it NOT deadly force. If you're using a weapon that can kill someone... whether it's a gun, knife, even a bludgeon, it's deadly force even if the effect or intent was only to wound.

Oh I know how to use a puukko in a way it won't kill you. And by hiring 'Johnny Cochrane' I'd get my view heard in the court.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Then I'd break out a pair of pliers and a blowtorch...

There is our little peace loving OTH coming out in his true colors

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

You mean illegal like having building material etc.? Err...duh.

What they were carrying is irrelevant. They refused to sail to the Israeli port like other aid ships do and they continued sailing straight to Gaza after IDF had warned them to change course.

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Dude, attack my house at night and I'll gladly stab you in the face.

Maybe so, but would you call that non-lethal force? Stay on topic!!