Nikimcbee's solution to the N Korea crisis

[nikimcbee]

The NK army will only last as long as they have food. Once they run out, its game over. And how are their food supplies now?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

The NK army will only last as long as they have food. Once they run out, its game over. And how are their food supplies now?

Unless they get through the DMZ and the SK aren't able to clear out the food cupboards in a timely fashion

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

The NK army will only last as long as they have food. Once they run out, its game over. And how are their food supplies now?

[Ducimus]

Ahh, Korea. A subject that will always be near and dear to my heart since i've been been across the pond to "visit" that bastard country twice.

I have the best idea EVER, to resolve our problems there.
Withdraw all our troops and let those racist little bastards solve their own problems. yes i said racist. Most Koreans have what one might call, "excessive pride". Point blank, they are a proud and stupid people.

Anyone not pure blood is looked down upon. "Ameriasians" may as well be living in the US circa 1960. American troops, are in many parts of the country resented, and trod upon. Yes i know, novel concept, "Gasp! OMG we're not loved?!"

They know enough english to tell you, "NO GI here, you GO!", "GI Go home" and a few others. We are considered "dirty" apparently. Any bar or resturant Americans happen to visit, the locals no longer will go there. Which gives owners plenty of reason to deny service. Being told to leave a resturant because i was an american is a memory that will always last.

Korea is called, "The land of the morning calm". To those of us who served there, we called it, "the land of the not quite right". I could talk about Korea for hours, but my bottom line is,

"F*ck em!, Let them sort their own problems."

If the ROK and DPRK resumed full scale war, i wouldn't shead a single tear so long as we're not involved. Their country, their problem. Screw em.

[Zachstar]

So you were there 40 years ago and still dislike the people Do you have any idea how they have changed into a high tech society and how access to info changes any people?

Regardless we have a treaty with them. We are legally bound to support them with military in the event of an hostile act by NK.

Also if the line is broken and NK tanks get across and south. The fighting would leave untold millions dead and the economy in ruins. That would mean markets around the world would go to near depression levels within weeks.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

So you were there 40 years ago and still dislike the people Do you have any idea how they have changed into a high tech society and how access to info changes any people?

I was there in 94, 95, and 99. I said i served there, i didn't say i was there in the korean war in the 1950's. Lots of people have served there since an annual tour is still, "360 days and a wake up".

But yeah, ive seen Korea and it's changes. They've been trying to become a 1st world nation in one generation. Korea is the happy land of the escavator. THey use it for EVERYTHING. Right along with pumper trucks. They slop that runny soup everywhere, and then they wonder why their malls and bridges fall down. I remember seeing one adashi measuring the elevation of a pile with a freaking ruler.

Regardless we have a treaty with them. We are legally bound to support them with military in the event of an hostile act by NK.

Seems to me there people don't want us there, and they made sure we knew it. Treaty? What - freaking - ever.

Also if the line is broken and NK tanks get across and south. The fighting would leave untold millions dead and the economy in ruins. That would mean markets around the world would go to near depression levels within weeks.

Would suck to be them wouldn't it? What was it they told me and my buddies,... oh yes... "GI GO HOME!". Sure, no problem. As if your typical GI wanted to be there anyway. One buddy of mine had some punk adashi body slam into his shoulder when he was just walking down the street minding his own buisness and got a "welcome to korea" to go along with the forceful slam. Kinda lets one know how they REALLY feel about us.

Again, Screw em. I don't care of that entire penninsula goes up on flame. Infact, id rather enjoy hearing them beg for us to return.

No im not bitter.. not at all.

[Zachstar]

So your anger at yalls treatment means you dont care when untold numbers of innocent people go into deep poverty when the markets crash when SK's economy implodes... I see

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Lots of people have served there since an annual tour is still, "360 days and a wake up".

Been there got the cheap t-shirts.

It is still my belief that this is a South Korean issue and that South Korea needs to solve it in a way that supports South Korean agendas.

Just because the United States has a defensive pact with South Korea does not mean that the US military is the tool of the South Korean government.

If the war escalates and South Korea seems to be losing, only then should American forces be commuted.

A defensive agreement does not mean that the US is the first to fight nor does it mean that the US solves a South Korean problem. We will help South Korea solve their problems... that means that the South Koreans do the heavy liftin.

To be brutally honest, and this is only my opinion, the two times I was over in Korea, I did not see anything that would be worth American lives.

I am, admittedly, pretty picky over what we sacrifice American lives for.

The United States spent a lot of tax dollars equipping and training the South Korean military forces. How about the South Korean's start taking care of their own defense for a change before we put any more American lives at risk.

Frankly, if it were up to me, I would pull all American forces out of South Korea. Just because they want a 60 year old war going on, does not mean that we have to stay there.

[Zachstar]

Even if we were to break treaty and leave it would take years. You cant close a base overnight and also classified material would have to be carefully taken out. You cant do that in a panic.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Even if we were to break treaty and leave it would take years. You cant close a base overnight and also classified material would have to be carefully taken out. You cant do that in a panic.

Good point, but it should not take the US 57 years and counting to package up the classified and unass the area.

[Zachstar]

Regardless we are there and we will have to fight. I just hope china would invade if NK opens fire. NK needs a change and even being a offshoot of china beats it being in its current situation. Atleast the people can get an education and do something other than worshiping KJI.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Just because the United States has a defensive pact with South Korea does not mean that the US military is the tool of the South Korean government.

Have you seen these dudes play Starcraft? The little Asian buggers can organize forces, and devise strategy with near mystical abilities that far surpass any white man.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Been there got the cheap t-shirts.

Your sir, have just earned my respect.

Just because the United States has a defensive pact with South Korea does not mean that the US military is the tool of the South Korean government.

Wholeheartedly agreed.

To be brutally honest, and this is only my opinion, the two times I was over in Korea, I did not see anything that would be worth American lives.

Apparently this is an opinion we both share. Glad to see im not completely out in the deep end.

I am, admittedly, pretty picky over what we sacrifice American lives for.

Adashi, Agashi, Odgema, and Haroboji ain't worth it to me. Not the way i saw them treat us, and i saw ALOT of time away from "americanized areas" due to my job. Some have never seen us before, most hate our guts. Taegu is a good example. Not a place to be if your a GI.

The United States spent a lot of tax dollars equipping and training the South Korean military forces.

I don't think many people realize just how many tax dollars are being sunk into that pennensula. Nevermind the KATUSA's, there's all the army camps, two US Air bases, and WRM assets in warehouses. (Found an old 1950-1960, straight six stake bed truck in one of em. 3 on the column shifting, with less then 600 miles on it believe it or not)

Frankly, if it were up to me, I would pull all American forces out of South Korea. Just because they want a 60 year old war going on, does not mean that we have to stay there.

Whole heartedly agreed. When i was nieve, I went there thinking we were doing good. I left there royally embittered, but alot wiser.

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Even if we were to break treaty and leave it would take years. You cant close a base overnight and also classified material would have to be carefully taken out. You cant do that in a panic.

My unit could do a phase 3 mobility upload in 48 hours or less. That's when your unbolting the shop machinery and loading it on flatbeds.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Adashi, Agashi, and Haroboji ain't worth it to me. Not the way i saw them treat us, and i saw ALOT of time away from "americanized areas" due to my job. Some have never seen us before, most hate our guts. Taegu is a good example. Not a place to be if your a GI.

I can only relate to my observations in 1988 and 1995 when I was there. It was mostly the young people who hated us. There were plenty of old Koreans who appreciated us. But in the 22 years since I was first there, I am sure many many of the old-timers died off leaving only the younglings who have never experienced Korea without an American umbrella.

It is sorta like a spoiled teenager bitching about his parents while relying on them for his very survival.

[Ducimus]

You were there in 95? Where abouts?