What do you feel about SH5 now?

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

I agree with you and I would imagine most of our responsible members think the same way. I imagine that Moeceefus was responding mainly to the poster he quoted intending perhaps, to show the folly of trying to lump a whole load of different people into one catagory.

Or that's my take on it anyway

Seems like all you have to do is say that you enjoy playing SH5 to be labelled a fanboi (by some). Some just won't accept that the game is playable and enjoyable (by those who play it and enjoy it). I don't think they should be called haters, but nafbois. Or perhaps EA Employees.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Or perhaps EA Employees.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Moeceefus

what can we label the opposite then?

hater(or h8r if you want to look cool)=someone who is hopelessly devoted to hating something and will hate anything associated with liking their particular thing of hate.

haters typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how bad their console of choice is, and how superior all other products are. haters will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking.

actually, the linear opposite of a fanboi is a cryboi, short for "crybaby".

cryboi: (def) player who unquestioningly attacks a game 100% of the time, no matter what feature or legitimate praise is invoked;

fanboi: (def) player who unquestioningly supports a game 100% of the time, no matter what bugs or legitimate criticism are raised;

In my experience, "Crybois" are easily spotted by their frequent use of the term "Fanbois" to describe their opponents.


Fortunately, most subsim members fall somewhere between these two extremes.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Seems like all you have to do is say that you enjoy playing SH5 to be labelled a fanboi (by some). Some just won't accept that the game is playable and enjoyable (by those who play it and enjoy it). I don't think they should be called haters, but nafbois. Or perhaps EA Employees.

I appreciate the humour (I guarantee that others wont lol) but maybe it's time that we just dropped the name calling (I've been guilty of it too sometimes) and just accepted that some of us love the game and some of us don't.

There was a thread where a chap was asking for views about the game - it descended into mayhem very quickly and I dare say the poor chap will have been put off Subsim altogether - I know I would have been.

But then all this has been said before I guess..

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

I appreciate the humour (I guarantee that others wont lol) but maybe it's time that we just dropped the name calling (I've been guilty of it too sometimes) and just accepted that some of us love the game and some of us don't.

I think about 3 months ago was the time to stop the name calling. Weak, impotent, stupid, idiots, delusional, Ubisoft Employees, plants, fools, fanboys, fanbois (the deliberately derogatory form of fanboy)- all words thrown by the nafbois at those who say the like the game (not love the game omg it's the best thing ever, but like it!) and that's just the ones I can remember off the top of my head from the various threads. Also those insults have been thrown at some who only bought the game, without actually expressing an opinion on whether they liked it or not.

People have tried reasoning with them, they've tried ignoring them, they've tried agreeing with them, they've tried complaining about them, they've tried complaining on a completely unrelated forum, they've tried doing nothing (to see if it actually worked), they've asked their solicitor if they can sue them, the only thing I haven't seen them do is start a petition, but still people post that the game is unplayable and unenjoyable, when clearly there are people that can play the game and do enjoy it. They just won't accept that some people can enjoy the game and instead resort to calling them names! I don't think after three months of it, it's unreasonable to give them a name.

It's clear that not everyone who hasn't purchased the game, or doesn't like it falls into this category, as there are multiple reasons people do and do not like the game. But there is still that very small minority who is nothing but snide and downright unpleasant about people whose only crime is to try to discuss what they like about a game on a discussion forum set up to discuss a game.

[Nordmann]

Hear, hear! True spoken.

Frankly, I'm surprised personal attacks are allowed on here, as most forums that I visit tend to issue suspensions or bans for this kind of behaviour; it is unnecessary, and a real turn off for new community members. If you have to resort to derogatory names, you have already lost the debate.

Speaking of fanbois, I wonder how come that there are so much that consider the game to be a fiasco, but we are just seeing fanbois' posts? Maybe the people with some reason ("crybabies" in somebody's vision) here just doesn't bother to be as vocal as fanbois ... It may be an explanation. By the way, it will take some time until there will be some general accepted term for the people that don't see crap as honey, but fortunately, we have one for the unconditional love for a game or for a company: FANBOI

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

If you have to resort to derogatory names, you have already lost the debate.

Obviously I wholeheartedly agree with you. The problem as I see it is that people with genuine reasons for liking/not liking the game are caught up in the flaming and namecalling. As an example I and another senior member had a public falling out, through no fault of our own - completely crossed arguments , started by other people.

I think maybe the answer is to try not to fight fire with fire - be bigger than that (and I'm talking about both sides of the fence here - the guys that like and the guys that don't) If we ignore the trouble makers then maybe they'll have to find another forum to harrass.

I'm gonna try to make it my attitude from now on besides, if you leave their post hanging in an otherwise ok debate , then surely you show it's childishness to everyone else?

Robbo out

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Obviously I wholeheartedly agree with you. The problem as I see it is that people with genuine reasons for liking/not liking the game are caught up in the flaming and namecalling. As an example I and another senior member had a public falling out, through no fault of our own - completely crossed arguments , started by other people.

I think maybe the answer is to try not to fight fire with fire - be bigger than that (and I'm talking about both sides of the fence here - the guys that like and the guys that don't) If we ignore the trouble makers then maybe they'll have to find another forum to harrass.

I'm gonna try to make it my attitude from now on besides, if you leave their post hanging in an otherwise ok debate , then surely you show it's childishness to everyone else?

Robbo out

Edit to add:Timing is everything

fanboi ...

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by MataDirtyHarry

Speaking of fanbois, I wonder how come that there are so much that consider the game to be a fiasco, but we are just seeing fanbois' posts? Maybe the people with some reason ("crybabies" in somebody's vision) here just doesn't bother to be as vocal as fanbois ... It may be an explanation. By the way, it will take some time until there will be some general accepted term for the people that don't see crap as honey, but fortunately, we have one for the unconditional love for a game or for a company: FANBOI

Pure honey.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Pure honey.

like shooting fish in a barrel, hardly worth the trouble...

[Reece]

^ last 2 posts!

[Méo]

The most ridiculous thing in all this is that they are the only ones who are making a fixation on Ubisoft.

...while we're only interested in playing and improving a U-boat simulation.

[Reece]

These posts exist because of peoples frustration, some just show it with a little more passion than others, to some Silent Hunter is a game, others it's a life, ranting though does nothing, but sometimes it's the only way to vent steam!!
We all wish UBI would put in a reasonable effort in producing a game and certainly in fixing it up, but all the wishes in the world ain't gonna make it happen, a shame! Wish I knew why UBI went down this road in the first place!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Frankly, I'm surprised personal attacks are allowed on here, as most forums that I visit tend to issue suspensions or bans for this kind of behaviour; it is unnecessary, and a real turn off for new community members. If you have to resort to derogatory names, you have already lost the debate.

Actually they aren't. People aren't directly suspended at first, but they are warned when the moderators think they've gone too far. Of course there are differences of opinion on what constitutes a personal attack, but these threads are watched.