What do you feel about SH5 now?

[Gammelpreusse]

Hm now that I have played the game for a bit, before stopping a month or so ago....


SHV impressed me much more on sight then SHIII and IV when firing it up the first time. It was pretty mind blowing to see the graphics and the ideas the developers put in.

On the other hand SHV has the lowest long term motivational factors. I am in 42 and simply lost any drive to further play it. It's shelved for now until something major comes up, especially in regards to merchant shipping.

UBI policies did not help much to improve the impressions, either.

[Yak]

The poll results are certainly interesting and seem to contradict the popular fanboy view..

And this isn't exactly gamespot or pc.ign forums full of petulant fifteen year olds, this is a niche forum that is very genre specific and with a much older audience, so such an overwhelmingly negative view by people deliberately seeking out this forum really isn't a good thing...

[SubV]

No, SH5 isn't total fiasco. If the devs release another one or two patches (and remove online DRM, of course), this game will eventually become better than SH3.

[robbo180265]

It's really difficult to say anything else nowadays - as soon as you say the game is playable or enjoyable you end up getting labled a "fanboi" or worse (have a look at the personal insults Magnum got for standing up for the game in another thread) , so I for one have stopped bothering.

At the end of the day - most of (more mature forum members) realise that it's all subjective, that whilst one may enjoy the game others may not.

Can't be assed to argue anymore , cant be assed to fill out polls anymore. It's like marmite it seems - you either love it or hate it.

Originally Posted by Yak

The poll results are certainly interesting and seem to contradict the popular fanboy view..

And this isn't exactly gamespot or pc.ign forums full of petulant fifteen year olds, this is a niche forum that is very genre specific and with a much older audience, so such an overwhelmingly negative view by people deliberately seeking out this forum really isn't a good thing...

It's just that the fanbois are more vocal than the "normal" member, like all fanbois are, looking at the results of this posll the game seems to be not so well "rated" here. It's obvious subjective, but at least we can see the general trend regarding SH5 perception in this community. Of course, the fanbois will say something different, that's why they are what they are. The best example: look at the fanboi that has just wrote above me: he is writing every day at least a few messages on this forum saying how great the game is and he is now starting to whine that he cannot write anything in this forum anymore. And he is not the only one fanboi here, there's a little army of them. But that won't make the game better "rated" that he actually is , at least from this poll's results point of view ...

"fanboi=someone who is hopelessly devoted to something and will like anything associated with their particular thing.

Fanbois typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how perfect their console of choice is, and how inferior all other products are. Fanbois will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking." fanboi definition from Online Urban Dictionary

[Der SchattenJager]

I think with 1.2 and a few essential mods, SHV is turning into a fantastic game. Already being an above-average game after only the first few months since release, I'm really excited to see how this game will be by the end of the year.

Given how crappy SHIII and IV were in their first few months, I think SHV is on its way to being the pinnacle of WWII subsims.

[Moeceefus]

Originally Posted by MataDirtyHarry

It's just that the fanbois are more vocal than the "normal" member, like all fanbois are, looking at the results of this posll the game seems to be not so well "rated" here. It's obvious subjective, but at least we can see the general trend regarding SH5 perception in this community. Of course, the fanbois will say something different, that's why they are what they are. The best example: look at the fanboi that has just wrote above me: he is writing every day at least a few messages on this forum saying how great the game is and he is now starting to whine that he cannot write anything in this forum anymore. And he is not the only one fanboi here, there's a little army of them. But that won't make the game better "rated" that he actually is , at least from this poll's results point of view ...

"fanboi=someone who is hopelessly devoted to something and will like anything associated with their particular thing.

Fanbois typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how perfect their console of choice is, and how inferior all other products are. Fanbois will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking." fanboi definition from Online Urban Dictionary

what can we label the opposite then?

hater(or h8r if you want to look cool)=someone who is hopelessly devoted to hating something and will hate anything associated with liking their particular thing of hate.

haters typically spend most of their free time telling anyone who will listen how bad their console of choice is, and how superior all other products are. haters will not stop annoying other people until everyone they know is converted to their way of thinking.

[siebr00]

I like it a lot but.......

- I do need the MOD (e.g. TheDarkWraith (TDC-UI), Skawsjer(Voice recognition) to name the for me 2 most important ones. I do not mind if the hand of a dial is missing or stuck. I can understand that it's not the goal of the developer and having written a few programs myself, I know how difficult it is to do a 100%. In the heat of the action I most likely won't miss it (except for the most necessary ones of course). So no UBI-bashing from me on that. I really appreciate all the hard work of the MODders to correct this and they do deserve recognition for that
UBI owns them a lot.

- The way to automatically get the torpedo solution correct (by turning away the peri/UZO and place the number on the number) is ABSOLUTE crap. What was wrong with the SH3/SH$ way of fireing???? The guy who is able to MOD that is my 3rd most important modder.

- The DRM from UBI is more than ABSOLUTE CRAP. I do not synchronize my save games. Getting a check on a legal installation I can live with but the way it's implemented I abhor.

Would I recommend the game??

Absolutely YES!!!! but with mentioning my points above.

Good hunting ye all.

[Akulla72]

I really enjoy the game, love the way it looks and feels.

But there are a few things that I think it could use, or see a return from previous SH games.

1. Rudder Icon, I really miss that, the compass dial they added is nice, but not as handy.

2. I'd like to see oil slicks, maybe a bit more debris from wrecks, I havent see any ships break apart from torpedo damage.

3. I'd like to be able to replace crew members.

[ingsoc84]

Since patch 1.2 and with all the outstanding mods, the game I is awesome, and I enjoy it very much!

[subsimlee]

I'm definitely being won over to SH5 by the Modders. What was unplayable is now bearable. DarkWraith was first to give me some important control and hope for the sim....
That said, the DRM concept still sucks the big one!!!

[Ironwolf u-895]

Well here it is my version of good or not the game is. Although I see the effort in which to advance the game from the first 4 ver. I see that the game has many possiblilities but in the current state its disapointing at somethings incounterd in the game. Unless u have a mod for the key controls for example the different controls that exist in the other vers dont exist in this one. when u want to "Dive" the ship u press d...good but now u press v? anyway correct the key commands for the ship. UBI has NOT done its job properly and for a game that has many possibilities i see it not getting far. Ex. on patrol, attack a con..torps hits a tanker, but she doesnt sink even if shes burnnning for hours and has three holes in her, comon A tanker ppl..caring some type of fuel,when on fire is going to burn and destroy the ship sooner or later..but no, in stead u save the game..come back to it later and hey the tanker is no longer on fire, and shes maken 5kts...ok UBI EXPLAIN THE DAMN LOGIC U USE! IM not against ubi but who ever wrote the program clearly was just to make money on the project and then shelf the game after..as they feel no fixes are needed other wise they would of had the fixes come sooner and they would stay on top of the issues untill either fixed or hire a group of ppl who know the game and can fix it... for this game..well im a type IX fan and would of love to see a few of these boats in there even if only a mod...and the upgrades in the game to ur sub? shoot..i can make them myself before the dang repair guy comes up with them..come on late 1942 and in a few months in 43 the games over...im sure that the NAZI rsd teams were well into developing new tech stuff to help there subs survive longer and oh ya..even though the dainishs envented the snorkol the germans put it to good use..but not in the game hey?
ok enough of me..just fix the game as it should be...it has lots of good possibliities only if u devote a team to it,,,but i doubt ubi will
they made there money...in there words"on to bigger and better things"
anyway this is me sounding off

[Frumpkis]

Originally Posted by Moeceefus

what can we label the opposite then?

hater(or h8r if you want to look cool)=someone who is hopelessly devoted to hating something and will hate anything associated with liking their particular thing of hate.

It's not that black and white. I think there is probably a large middle ground of people like me, who are fans of the earlier series, and who haven't bought SH5 yet because we're waiting to see how the dance between Ubi's patch release plans and the modders works out. For someone like me, it's not enough for a current SH5 owner to say it's "fantastic" in its current state with a few essential mods. Different people have different thresholds of what they can put up with, as bugs that break immersion.

There is also an overlapping group of people who either refuse to put up with the current DRM, or just don't have a constant Internet connection. They're waiting to see if (at some point) Ubi changes the DRM to allow offline play.

There may be "haters" that will just bad-mouth the game regardless of any change in circumstances, but I wouldn't call either of these groups "haters." They're just fans of subsims who don't rate the current game state as enjoyable, and worth the money (yet). If the poll is asking how we feel about the game, we're responding honestly. We can't respond based on how the game "might" turn out six months or a year from now.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Frumpkis

It's not that black and white. I think there is probably a large middle ground of people like me, who are fans of the earlier series, and who haven't bought SH5 yet because we're waiting to see how the dance between Ubi's patch release plans and the modders works out. For someone like me, it's not enough for a current SH5 owner to say it's "fantastic" in its current state with a few essential mods. Different people have different thresholds of what they can put up with, as bugs that break immersion.

There is also an overlapping group of people who either refuse to put up with the current DRM, or just don't have a constant Internet connection. They're waiting to see if (at some point) Ubi changes the DRM to allow offline play.

There may be "haters" that will just bad-mouth the game regardless of any change in circumstances, but I wouldn't call either of these groups "haters." They're just fans of subsims who don't rate the current game state as enjoyable, and worth the money (yet). If the poll is asking how we feel about the game, we're responding honestly. We can't respond based on how the game "might" turn out six months or a year from now.

I agree with you and I would imagine most of our responsible members think the same way. I imagine that Moeceefus was responding mainly to the poster he quoted intending perhaps, to show the folly of trying to lump a whole load of different people into one catagory.

Or that's my take on it anyway

[Sub Marauder]

Redundant choices.