Refueling..???

cptroyce · 05-17-10, 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=tomoose;1395399]Cptroyce;
yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue.
For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;....

Tomoose - thanks for that info..Since I'm new, I didn't give fuel a second thought until I received the low fuel icon warning. Now I'll need to refrain from sailing around at "Full" and wasting resources wandering around the Celebes Sea.

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??

..but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.

Uhh..where is that? (hides head asking)

Admiral8Q · 05-17-10, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptroyce

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??

Uh, that was what I was trying to explain. You'll need to go 1/3 to 2/3 pretty well the whole time until you get a contact to chase.

That would mean the whole way t the Philippines from Freemantle, and on the way back too. That's one of the reasons I started looking for a mod. Now I can run at standard the majority of the time and even sprint to Midway on full speed sometimes (If I still have lots of fuel after a quick patrol), then refuel and sprint to Pearl Harbor.

les green01 · 05-17-10, 05:14 PM

1/2 speed 1/4 at 33% of fuel you might make it make sure your battery is charge and click off the charge button

cptroyce · 05-17-10, 05:29 PM

Thanks guys..

Admiral8Q
>> Uh, that was what I was trying to explain.<<

Got it now

les green01
Nice to read that sig quote..not enough people still understand that today; this forum probably excepted!

Regards,
Royce

Diopos · 05-17-10, 05:36 PM

Do your traveling at ~ 9 kts. On the surface.

Submerge to attack or survive. Moving submerged is fuel intensive. Avoid it when possible.

If you've sustained any form of damage, follow closely the recharghing of your batteries. It is possible that they wont recharge 100%. In such a case stop auto recharging. Recharhing batteries costs diesel.

Yes most of your fuel will be spent to reach your mission objective and return to base. If you allocate 10-20% of your fuel for reserve/contingency purposes you'll find that the actual availability of fuel for combat/patrol purposes maybe lower than 20%. Not unrealistic mind you. Fleet boats would routinely travel 30-40 days to and back from their patrol stations where they remained for less than a week. The Pacific is a BIG pond!

As the war progresses and more "forward" bases are established fuel becomes a lesser concern but always remember nobody if going to tug you home if you run dry!

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les green01 · 05-17-10, 08:37 PM

Audie Murphy has special meaning to me as a old friend serve with him and i spent many hours helping him with stuff and working for him and he would tell me the stories

tomoose · 05-18-10, 09:16 AM

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

les green01 · 05-18-10, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomoose

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

it is available in stock

Bilge_Rat · 05-18-10, 09:35 AM

you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel.

cptroyce · 05-18-10, 10:57 AM

Thanks gents for all that info..

>> you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel. <<

Actually, that's right...I ran out of fuel just about 50-60 nm out from Freemantle. However, on the return try to Australia, I submerged from a contact around Indonesia, and then started for port again...except I forgot to surface and ran for some distance at P depth..burning up unnecessary reserves. Had I not made that "bonehead" move, I would have made it back to port on the 33% remaining fuel.

Love this sim btw..lots of depth to it..no pun intended.

Royce

thor headsplitter · 05-18-10, 11:35 PM

It's in the nav map section.

rein1705 · 05-19-10, 11:24 PM

The most frustrating thing ever was when i ran out of fuel not 20mn from Pearl....

raymond6751 · 05-23-10, 06:15 AM

I have been in your situation. What you need to do is run submerged until the batteries are 40-50% and then surface only long enough to recharge. You do that charge at 2/3 speed to conserve fuel.

It is slow, but all the while using batteries is extending your range.

When you are free of likely enemy encounters, you can run the batteries down to 10-20% before refuelling. Also, slow speed underwater to extend battery life.

It is slow but survival is the goal.

Harmsway! · 05-23-10, 06:27 AM

That might work in the sim but it aught not. The diesel engines is what charges the batteries. This should only use more fuel if anything. I don't know if SH4 simulates this properly though.

05-17-10, 05:14 PM	#3
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	1/2 speed 1/4 at 33% of fuel you might make it make sure your battery is charge and click off the charge button __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

05-17-10, 05:29 PM	#4
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys.. Admiral8Q >> Uh, that was what I was trying to explain.<< Got it now les green01 Nice to read that sig quote..not enough people still understand that today; this forum probably excepted! Regards, Royce Last edited by cptroyce; 05-17-10 at 09:07 PM.

05-17-10, 05:36 PM	#5
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Do your traveling at ~ 9 kts. On the surface. Submerge to attack or survive. Moving submerged is fuel intensive. Avoid it when possible. If you've sustained any form of damage, follow closely the recharghing of your batteries. It is possible that they wont recharge 100%. In such a case stop auto recharging. Recharhing batteries costs diesel. Yes most of your fuel will be spent to reach your mission objective and return to base. If you allocate 10-20% of your fuel for reserve/contingency purposes you'll find that the actual availability of fuel for combat/patrol purposes maybe lower than 20%. Not unrealistic mind you. Fleet boats would routinely travel 30-40 days to and back from their patrol stations where they remained for less than a week. The Pacific is a BIG pond! As the war progresses and more "forward" bases are established fuel becomes a lesser concern but always remember nobody if going to tug you home if you run dry! . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

05-17-10, 08:37 PM	#6
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	Audie Murphy has special meaning to me as a old friend serve with him and i spent many hours helping him with stuff and working for him and he would tell me the stories __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

05-18-10, 09:16 AM	#7
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	"range at current speed" Cptroyce; I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL). This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

05-17-10, 05:01 PM	#1
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=tomoose;1395399]Cptroyce; yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue. For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;.... Tomoose - thanks for that info..Since I'm new, I didn't give fuel a second thought until I received the low fuel icon warning. Now I'll need to refrain from sailing around at "Full" and wasting resources wandering around the Celebes Sea. However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission?? ..but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot. Uhh..where is that? (hides head asking)

05-18-10, 09:35 AM	#9
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel. __________________

05-18-10, 10:57 AM	#10
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Thanks gents for all that info.. >> you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel. << Actually, that's right...I ran out of fuel just about 50-60 nm out from Freemantle. However, on the return try to Australia, I submerged from a contact around Indonesia, and then started for port again...except I forgot to surface and ran for some distance at P depth..burning up unnecessary reserves. Had I not made that "bonehead" move, I would have made it back to port on the 33% remaining fuel. Love this sim btw..lots of depth to it..no pun intended. Royce

05-18-10, 11:35 PM	#11
thor headsplitter Watch Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 18 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	It's in the nav map section.

05-19-10, 11:24 PM	#12
rein1705 Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: somewhere in the Past. Posts: 582 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 0	The most frustrating thing ever was when i ran out of fuel not 20mn from Pearl.... __________________ "Diesel Pig" Not so long ago...

05-23-10, 06:15 AM	#13
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Use your batteries to get home I have been in your situation. What you need to do is run submerged until the batteries are 40-50% and then surface only long enough to recharge. You do that charge at 2/3 speed to conserve fuel. It is slow, but all the while using batteries is extending your range. When you are free of likely enemy encounters, you can run the batteries down to 10-20% before refuelling. Also, slow speed underwater to extend battery life. It is slow but survival is the goal. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

05-23-10, 06:27 AM	#14
Harmsway! XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 400 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	That might work in the sim but it aught not. The diesel engines is what charges the batteries. This should only use more fuel if anything. I don't know if SH4 simulates this properly though.