SH5 Civil War

05-14-10, 07:48 AM

Is it only my impression or is this forum on the verge of a "civil war" with more than two factions after the release of SH5? Unless that there's no slaves to be freed here ... Or maybe there are, but they don't know they're slaves and don't know who their masters are as well.

SteamWake · 05-14-10, 07:50 AM

Yes its only your opinion.

There have been disagreements and diferences of opinion as long as there has been a forum.

Nice try though.

SabreHawk · 05-14-10, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Yes its only your opinion.

There have been disagreements and diferences of opinion as long as there has been a forum.

Nice try though.

Arrr, this be true.

But differnces in opinion are good, it means we are all thinking.
For any two people that are always in agreement then only one is doing the thinking.

orangehat44 · 05-14-10, 08:20 AM

A thread like this wont help anything either. The entire front page of SH5 forum is full of negative threads, that begs everyone to chime in. Yes we are all upset to some degree or another about the state of the game and how ubi has treated us as a customer and community. Tempers flare. But if everyone makes a thread to gripe about each individual thing its only going to fuel the fire. If we keep our gripes regulated to a master thread like we did with the patch when the whole 1.2 patch debauchery started the forum can return to a state where there is actual helpful threads on the front page especially for people who are new and looking for help.

I discovered this forum when SH5 was first released, which was also when I discovered the Silent hunter series in general, I use to play sims but took a long hiatus, my last sim being Janes' USAF GOld I believe. If I stumbled across this forum as a new player in this state, I probably would have imediatly returned the game and never dove into the SH series.

Yes the point of a forum is open discussion but the overall mission of this forum is to promote Sub simulations, aid new players, discuss tactics and what not. We're the community, we shouldnt be at each others throats.

I am by no means saying Im happy with the state of the game. I havent loaded it since march 10th I think. And Ive been happy play Sh3 with GWX and SH3 commander, and I also have 2 installs of sh4 to play both OM and TMO (RFB was too much of a learning curve for me, need to learn the nuances of the boats before I can give that one another go). We have been wronged pretty badly by UBI. with their lack of communication with their english audience, and blatent lack of effort to address any problems.

But what we dont need is infighting, or any provocation of infighting, in the "To UBI" thread we already have some modders arguing, hopefully they have resloved that and can come to terms I love the work of all the modding parties. If they could come together and work towards a common goal rather than bicker this game can probably be saved.

Just my thoughts and sorry for longwinded ness.

Bilge_Rat · 05-14-10, 08:32 AM

I'm on her side.

05-14-10, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by orangehat44

A thread like this wont help anything either. The entire front page of SH5 forum is full of negative threads, that begs everyone to chime in. Yes we are all upset to some degree or another about the state of the game and how ubi has treated us as a customer and community. Tempers flare. But if everyone makes a thread to gripe about each individual thing its only going to fuel the fire. If we keep our gripes regulated to a master thread like we did with the patch when the whole 1.2 patch debauchery started the forum can return to a state where there is actual helpful threads on the front page especially for people who are new and looking for help.

I discovered this forum when SH5 was first released, which was also when I discovered the Silent hunter series in general, I use to play sims but took a long hiatus, my last sim being Janes' USAF GOld I believe. If I stumbled across this forum as a new player in this state, I probably would have imediatly returned the game and never dove into the SH series.

Yes the point of a forum is open discussion but the overall mission of this forum is to promote Sub simulations, aid new players, discuss tactics and what not. We're the community, we shouldnt be at each others throats.

I am by no means saying Im happy with the state of the game. I havent loaded it since march 10th I think. And Ive been happy play Sh3 with GWX and SH3 commander, and I also have 2 installs of sh4 to play both OM and TMO (RFB was too much of a learning curve for me, need to learn the nuances of the boats before I can give that one another go). We have been wronged pretty badly by UBI. with their lack of communication with their english audience, and blatent lack of effort to address any problems.

But what we dont need is infighting, or any provocation of infighting, in the "To UBI" thread we already have some modders arguing, hopefully they have resloved that and can come to terms I love the work of all the modding parties. If they could come together and work towards a common goal rather than bicker this game can probably be saved.

Just my thoughts and sorry for longwinded ness.

+1 ! I totally agree with you! We don't need this kind of attitude here, especially thinking that this game is AWSOME!!! The greatest subsim ever with astonish graphics and AI as well. So, **** off Chicolatino, go away, we don't need you, we are very happy with the game, so there's no civil war.

ReallyDedPoet · 05-14-10, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

There have been disagreements and differences of opinion as long as there has been a forum.

The community is just to big and diverse for there not to be.

The mood around here is very similar to when SH4 was released and I am sure SH3, and people got over themselves eventually.

Sailor Steve · 05-14-10, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy_Joe

+1 ! I totally agree with you! We don't need this kind of attitude here, especially thinking that this game is AWSOME!!! The greatest subsim ever with astonish graphics and AI as well. So, **** off Chicolatino, go away, we don't need you, we are very happy with the game, so there's no civil war.

It seems to me you missed the whole point, which is that both sides are right and entitled to their opinion. Your last line was just as bad as his.

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Originally Posted by SabreHawk

For any two people that are always in agreement then only one is doing the thinking.

Love that line!

05-14-10, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It seems to me you missed the whole point, which is that both sides are right and entitled to their opinion. Your last line was just as bad as his.

Then maybe you should play Aces Of The Deep Or Silent Service, oldboy! And give the ones that love SH5 a break. I've never seen a better made subsim before, I really can't understand those damn whiners lurking around here.

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-14-10, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

That would make a good bit of nose art on a bomber.

Cowboy_Joe, you are not gonna last long here attackin' Sailor Steve like that. He's one of the nicer guys here at Subsim. He's also been here longer than most of us... Just my suggestion since you are new here, but you might think a bit more before posting. Keep in mind, it isn't what you say... but how you say it.

IanC · 05-14-10, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy_Joe

Then maybe you should play Aces Of The Deep Or Silent Service, oldboy! And give the ones that love SH5 a break. I've never seen a better made subsim before, I really can't understand those damn whiners lurking around here.

Very immature post.

McBeck · 05-14-10, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy_Joe

Then maybe you should play Aces Of The Deep Or Silent Service, oldboy! And give the ones that love SH5 a break. I've never seen a better made subsim before, I really can't understand those damn whiners lurking around here.

Please refrain from that language and namecalling

robbo180265 · 05-14-10, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy_Joe

Then maybe you should play Aces Of The Deep Or Silent Service, oldboy! And give the ones that love SH5 a break. I've never seen a better made subsim before, I really can't understand those damn whiners lurking around here.

Iron Budokan · 05-14-10, 09:49 AM

Yes, people are passionate. No, it hasn't developed into anything like a Civil War. I'm sure if we all got together we'd have a beer and happily chillax in each others' company, despite the blistering arguments we have about SH5.

robbo180265 · 05-14-10, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Yes, people are passionate. No, it hasn't developed into anything like a Civil War. I'm sure if we all got together we'd have a beer and happily chillax in each others' company, despite the blistering arguments we have about SH5.

I agree with you - sometimes tempers flare , but it's more like old friends arguing than any kind of war.

05-14-10, 07:48 AM	#1
Chicolatino Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	SH5 Civil War Is it only my impression or is this forum on the verge of a "civil war" with more than two factions after the release of SH5? Unless that there's no slaves to be freed here ... Or maybe there are, but they don't know they're slaves and don't know who their masters are as well.

05-14-10, 07:50 AM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes its only your opinion. There have been disagreements and diferences of opinion as long as there has been a forum. Nice try though. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

05-14-10, 08:32 AM	#5
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I'm on her side. __________________

05-14-10, 09:49 AM	#14
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, people are passionate. No, it hasn't developed into anything like a Civil War. I'm sure if we all got together we'd have a beer and happily chillax in each others' company, despite the blistering arguments we have about SH5. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

05-14-10, 08:20 AM	#4
orangehat44 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 80 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	A thread like this wont help anything either. The entire front page of SH5 forum is full of negative threads, that begs everyone to chime in. Yes we are all upset to some degree or another about the state of the game and how ubi has treated us as a customer and community. Tempers flare. But if everyone makes a thread to gripe about each individual thing its only going to fuel the fire. If we keep our gripes regulated to a master thread like we did with the patch when the whole 1.2 patch debauchery started the forum can return to a state where there is actual helpful threads on the front page especially for people who are new and looking for help. I discovered this forum when SH5 was first released, which was also when I discovered the Silent hunter series in general, I use to play sims but took a long hiatus, my last sim being Janes' USAF GOld I believe. If I stumbled across this forum as a new player in this state, I probably would have imediatly returned the game and never dove into the SH series. Yes the point of a forum is open discussion but the overall mission of this forum is to promote Sub simulations, aid new players, discuss tactics and what not. We're the community, we shouldnt be at each others throats. I am by no means saying Im happy with the state of the game. I havent loaded it since march 10th I think. And Ive been happy play Sh3 with GWX and SH3 commander, and I also have 2 installs of sh4 to play both OM and TMO (RFB was too much of a learning curve for me, need to learn the nuances of the boats before I can give that one another go). We have been wronged pretty badly by UBI. with their lack of communication with their english audience, and blatent lack of effort to address any problems. But what we dont need is infighting, or any provocation of infighting, in the "To UBI" thread we already have some modders arguing, hopefully they have resloved that and can come to terms I love the work of all the modding parties. If they could come together and work towards a common goal rather than bicker this game can probably be saved. Just my thoughts and sorry for longwinded ness.