Age of sail simulation?

raymond6751 · 05-13-10, 05:13 AM

I've had Sea Dogs, Pirates of the Carribean, and Age of Pirates 1 & 2 and, like you, just want to sail.

I play these games as a trader and avoid fighting, as a trader would. The best of them, for just sailing around, is Age of Pirates 2 City of Lost Ships.

The reason is that you really sail the map. You can go to the 2d, topdown map and fast move. You can also set your course and patiently wait for the destination island to come over the horizon.

There isn't much 'sailing' technicalities though. It would be great to have a game where you could set specific sails, tack, and navigate properly.

Designing ships would be cool too.

Sonarman · 05-13-10, 05:42 AM

The great news is that the modding community at Pirates Ahoy actually have been given the source code for City of Abandoned Ships by Akella so now anything is possible, definitely one to watch.

aergistal · 05-13-10, 09:56 AM

Thank you all for the feedback!

raymond, Age of Pirates 2 looks interesting. Is it playable in stock form? I mean, I don't care if it has a steep learning curve or you need trial and error but is it relatively free of frustrating bugs? There's also that upcoming game,
Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned. I like the fact that you can leave the ship and explore the land too.

Sonarman thanks for letting me know about the site. I'm gonna watch it too. Maybe even going to start modelling some ships after I finish my current project.

Now for a proper sim, among the features I would enjoy in such a game, besides good physics, would be a simulated night sky with some of the actual stars and planets (with an option to display labels for them

). There are many open source programs for this. The lack of precision of early navigation could be challenging. You'd have the option to use tools like astrolabs, back staffs or the early sextant yourself or get the navigator do it for you. For longitude you'd have a range of clocks of different precisions.

I wonder how the in-game map should look and work. It might not be enough to have a fog of war effect. I think it needs a new mechanic, like displaying newly discovered map objects (such as islands) based on your navigation error and skill.

Sung · 05-13-10, 10:58 AM

Ahoi,

we work since 6 month on a Pirates Sailing "Simulation". Our project goal is it to make a game like "Elite" in a tropical island theater. You can try a new demo (traveling and trading) of the project.

Pirates Empire Demo II (7,5 MB)
http://www.box.net/shared/0bluvmryul

The manual sheet in german language
http://www.box.net/shared/y713v026jc

We develop the game in german language. Maybe it is a little bit difficult to understand the manual but its easy to understand when you play it.

Commands after starting the game.

in the harbour:
press space to open the trading book
left side the trading goods and price - right side your ship
Accept with the right button under the book

traveling:
click on the anchor button (blue) - anchor is now up
click on the sail slider to set sail up
Look on the wind direction panel / left side upper corner
the ship direction panel is nearby. If both arrows shows in the same direction the wind came from behind.
click left mouse button an hold on the rudder

There is a minimap in the right corner. left mouse button on it and you see the big map.

Greetings
Sung

fw66 · 05-13-10, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sung

Ahoi,

we work since 6 month on a Pirates Sailing "Simulation". Our project goal is it to make a game like "Elite" in a tropical island theater. You can try a new demo (traveling and trading) of the project.

Pirates Empire Demo II (7,5 MB)
http://www.box.net/shared/0bluvmryul

The manual sheet in german language
http://www.box.net/shared/y713v026jc

We develop the game in german language. Maybe it is a little bit difficult to understand the manual but its easy to understand when you play it.

Commands after starting the game.

in the harbour:
press space to open the trading book
left side the trading goods and price - right side your ship
Accept with the right button under the book

traveling:
click on the anchor button (blue) - anchor is now up
click on the sail slider to set sail up
Look on the wind direction panel / left side upper corner
the ship direction panel is nearby. If both arrows shows in the same direction the wind came from behind.
click left mouse button an hold on the rudder

There is a minimap in the right corner. left mouse button on it and you see the big map.

Greetings
Sung

Thanks, will give this a try!

aergistal · 05-13-10, 11:36 AM

Roger, Sung! Will have a go at it. Thanks!

Sung · 05-15-10, 01:34 PM

Pirates Empire is going on.

We finish today the trading A.I. The A.I. Ships are now trading and traveling to harbours.
We also have a new ship, a sloop. Here you see the player ship crossing a sloop in the salty bay

If you like it you can follow our worklog on : http://www.blitzforum.de/worklogs/344/ (german language)

05-13-10, 05:13 AM	#1
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	I'd buy that in a second I've had Sea Dogs, Pirates of the Carribean, and Age of Pirates 1 & 2 and, like you, just want to sail. I play these games as a trader and avoid fighting, as a trader would. The best of them, for just sailing around, is Age of Pirates 2 City of Lost Ships. The reason is that you really sail the map. You can go to the 2d, topdown map and fast move. You can also set your course and patiently wait for the destination island to come over the horizon. There isn't much 'sailing' technicalities though. It would be great to have a game where you could set specific sails, tack, and navigate properly. Designing ships would be cool too. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

05-13-10, 05:42 AM	#2
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,392 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	The great news is that the modding community at Pirates Ahoy actually have been given the source code for City of Abandoned Ships by Akella so now anything is possible, definitely one to watch. __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software.

05-13-10, 10:58 AM	#4
Sung Developer Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Pirates Empire Ahoi, we work since 6 month on a Pirates Sailing "Simulation". Our project goal is it to make a game like "Elite" in a tropical island theater. You can try a new demo (traveling and trading) of the project. Pirates Empire Demo II (7,5 MB) http://www.box.net/shared/0bluvmryul The manual sheet in german language http://www.box.net/shared/y713v026jc We develop the game in german language. Maybe it is a little bit difficult to understand the manual but its easy to understand when you play it. Commands after starting the game. in the harbour: press space to open the trading book left side the trading goods and price - right side your ship Accept with the right button under the book traveling: click on the anchor button (blue) - anchor is now up click on the sail slider to set sail up Look on the wind direction panel / left side upper corner the ship direction panel is nearby. If both arrows shows in the same direction the wind came from behind. click left mouse button an hold on the rudder There is a minimap in the right corner. left mouse button on it and you see the big map. Greetings Sung __________________ SILENT DEPTH the submarine simulation for your mobile device www.silentdepth.com https://www.facebook.com/silentdepth/ Silent Depth Manual

05-15-10, 01:34 PM	#7
Sung Developer Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Pirates Empire is going on. We finish today the trading A.I. The A.I. Ships are now trading and traveling to harbours. We also have a new ship, a sloop. Here you see the player ship crossing a sloop in the salty bay If you like it you can follow our worklog on : http://www.blitzforum.de/worklogs/344/ (german language) __________________ SILENT DEPTH the submarine simulation for your mobile device www.silentdepth.com https://www.facebook.com/silentdepth/ Silent Depth Manual

05-13-10, 09:56 AM	#3
aergistal Chief Join Date: May 2010 Location: France Posts: 326 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 1	Thank you all for the feedback! raymond, Age of Pirates 2 looks interesting. Is it playable in stock form? I mean, I don't care if it has a steep learning curve or you need trial and error but is it relatively free of frustrating bugs? There's also that upcoming game, Pirates of the Caribbean: Armada of the Damned. I like the fact that you can leave the ship and explore the land too. Sonarman thanks for letting me know about the site. I'm gonna watch it too. Maybe even going to start modelling some ships after I finish my current project. Now for a proper sim, among the features I would enjoy in such a game, besides good physics, would be a simulated night sky with some of the actual stars and planets (with an option to display labels for them ). There are many open source programs for this. The lack of precision of early navigation could be challenging. You'd have the option to use tools like astrolabs, back staffs or the early sextant yourself or get the navigator do it for you. For longitude you'd have a range of clocks of different precisions. I wonder how the in-game map should look and work. It might not be enough to have a fog of war effect. I think it needs a new mechanic, like displaying newly discovered map objects (such as islands) based on your navigation error and skill.

05-13-10, 11:36 AM	#6
aergistal Chief Join Date: May 2010 Location: France Posts: 326 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 1	Roger, Sung! Will have a go at it. Thanks!