What do you feel about SH5 now?

05-12-10, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Until the DRM is eliminated the game can be pure gold and it will STILL be a case of a game company treating us like criminals and asking us to trust them to continue to run a miserly three servers. Trust is a two way street and I don't trust 'em. End of story.

If I understand right, you will not buy the game not because of its supposed bugs and other related gameplay problems, but because of the DRM. Thank you for your feedback.

danurve · 05-12-10, 08:50 AM

My position is also unchanged.

danlisa · 05-12-10, 09:05 AM

Unchanged!

I'll support the game in my own way but UBI will not be getting money out of me for this diabolical release. It's been poor (to say the least) from it's concept.

Sonarman · 05-12-10, 09:14 AM

You should really have an option for "it's not bad it an be fixed by the modders & Ubi" as in truth there are many hard coded things modders alone simply cannot fix. The real question is, if it is true that Ubi have abandoned the game (and we still have no official confirmation of that) how do we get them to come back & the core fixes needed?

05-12-10, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonarman

You should really have an option for "it's not bad it an be fixed by the modders & Ubi" as in truth there are many hard coded things modders alone simply cannot fix. The real question is, if it is true that Ubi have abandoned the game (and we still have no official confirmation of that) how do we get them to come back & the core fixes needed?

Anyone can vote "it can be improved by UBI" and "it can be improved by modders", both options, "combined".

Sonarman · 05-12-10, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stronghold

Anyone can vote "it can be improved by UBI" and "it can be improved by modders", both options, "combined".

That's what I did but it won't do your post poll analysis any good.

gimpy117 · 05-12-10, 10:18 AM

Why look a girt horse in the mouth? At least UBI is TRYING to fix stuff.

Maybe not everything they wanted to release did get out...but its in the works. we'll have more ships soon enough

Yak · 05-12-10, 01:37 PM

I played SH3 and 4 vanilla out of the box (even without patches) for a long time without major issues generally, bugs I can deal with, this DRM I cannot (Literally, I can't use it weather I want to or not)

Remove the online requirement, Ubi has a sale.

Iron Budokan · 05-12-10, 02:32 PM

Haven't bought it, not likely to.

That's cool. I'm pretty busy with other things.

JScones · 05-13-10, 04:15 AM

I chose "I haven't bought this game and I will probably not buy it" but that's not quite right, in one sense. See, Ubisoft sent me a (free) copy of SH5 before official release, so I do actually own a copy.

But I've only opened it once to see if it included a printed manual. Since then it's been sandwiched between my SH3 and SH4 DVD cases.

From what I've read today I won't be installing it anytime soon. Problem is, I sense that 1.2 will be the final patch for the final game in the series. I just can't help but think that Ubisoft (collective, ie devs and suits) have been quite disinterested in supporting SH5 (ironic really, given all the "You must buy this game to support the series" rants of so recent.

).

I was tempted to select "Total fiasco", as that certainly is my view of the Ubisoft (again, collective) handling of the game, but I chose not to as I felt that option was only for those who have played the game. I would really hate to upset the few people here who think that those who don't own the game aren't entitled to an opinion on it.

"So why then post here?" I hear you ask. Simple, I don't want the game to "suck". If the response from players to 1.2 was as glowing as the anticipation was (remember the "1.2 will fix all our problems"

posts?), then I'd be the first to select one of the other more favourable options.

But, alas, with each passing day it is looking less likely.

Sub Marauder · 05-18-10, 03:04 PM

Redundant choices.

W_clear · 05-19-10, 01:42 AM

It's a great game。I like it very much.Hope everyone understands the game developers, they are not easy. If you do not believe that you try development of a game。

Long live the understanding。

Westbroek · 05-12-10, 09:20 AM

It's a great game that will continue to get even better. Not any more of a fiasco than any other pc release lately. It's people freaking out here that make it seem like a fiasco.
Cheers,
W

janh · 05-12-10, 09:33 AM

Well, easy: few of the things promised and highly anticioated features (wolfpacks, etc.) work properly, plenty of remnant features of SHIII don't work as they used to either, lots of stuff I had gotten so used to and made SHIII+GWX such a gem have been dropped out entirely (Type II, IX, XXI, later years, the baracks etc, crew losses etc). Patching and support does occur at a bare minium level, and if I had bought it, I would be really angry now, probably feel quite stupid and cheated. Ubi is not any better than the people they aimed the DRM chains at -- oh, ups, they aimed at the loyal customers (and resellers), I forgot.

Hey, but you can walk through your underpopulated, overscaled submarine interior all day long, don't even have to care about submarine warfare and get soup all along! And yeah, it has so beautiful graphics! Especially when you see the screenshots of ships running on shore, or running through each other... /sarcasm end/.

I guess there is, thus far, only one possible conclusion...

05-12-10, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by janh

Well, easy: few of the things promised and highly anticioated features (wolfpacks, etc.) work properly, plenty of remnant features of SHIII don't work as they used to either, lots of stuff I had gotten so used to and made SHIII+GWX such a gem have been dropped out entirely (Type II, IX, XXI, later years, the baracks etc, crew losses etc). Patching and support does occur at a bare minium level, and if I had bought it, I would be really angry now, probably feel quite stupid and cheated. Ubi is not any better than the people they aimed the DRM chains at -- oh, ups, they aimed at the loyal customers (and resellers), I forgot.

Hey, but you can walk through your underpopulated, overscaled submarine interior all day long, don't even have to care about submarine warfare and get soup all along! And yeah, it has so beautiful graphics! Especially when you see the screenshots of ships running on shore, or running through each other... /sarcasm end/.

I guess there is, thus far, only one possible conclusion...

I totally agree with your signature, but as I have stated before, I only want to emphasis the subjective perception of this community regarding SH5. And after the poll will be over, I will draw myself a personal subjective conclusion regarding the material that the members of SH5 forums are made of, if I can say that ...

View Poll Results: What do you feel about SH5 now?
I love this game, it's my dream come true!	17	4.28%
It's not bad, it can be improved by UBI	59	14.86%
It's not bad, it can be improved by modders	86	21.66%
It's not bad, but it's not good either	39	9.82%
It's a total fiasco	132	33.25%
I haven't bought this game, but I probably will buy it	21	5.29%
I haven't bought this game and I will probably not buy it	110	27.71%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 397. You may not vote on this poll

05-12-10, 08:50 AM	#2
danurve The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,481 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 3	My position is also unchanged. __________________

05-12-10, 09:05 AM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Unchanged! I'll support the game in my own way but UBI will not be getting money out of me for this diabolical release. It's been poor (to say the least) from it's concept. __________________

05-12-10, 09:14 AM	#4
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,392 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	You should really have an option for "it's not bad it an be fixed by the modders & Ubi" as in truth there are many hard coded things modders alone simply cannot fix. The real question is, if it is true that Ubi have abandoned the game (and we still have no official confirmation of that) how do we get them to come back & the core fixes needed? __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software.

05-12-10, 10:18 AM	#7
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	Why look a girt horse in the mouth? At least UBI is TRYING to fix stuff. Maybe not everything they wanted to release did get out...but its in the works. we'll have more ships soon enough __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

05-12-10, 01:37 PM	#8
Yak Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Here, sometimes there Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I played SH3 and 4 vanilla out of the box (even without patches) for a long time without major issues generally, bugs I can deal with, this DRM I cannot (Literally, I can't use it weather I want to or not) Remove the online requirement, Ubi has a sale. __________________ It all started with a goat, a golf club and a pack of Marlboro Red's...

05-12-10, 02:32 PM	#9
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Haven't bought it, not likely to. That's cool. I'm pretty busy with other things. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

05-13-10, 04:15 AM	#10
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I chose "I haven't bought this game and I will probably not buy it" but that's not quite right, in one sense. See, Ubisoft sent me a (free) copy of SH5 before official release, so I do actually own a copy. But I've only opened it once to see if it included a printed manual. Since then it's been sandwiched between my SH3 and SH4 DVD cases. From what I've read today I won't be installing it anytime soon. Problem is, I sense that 1.2 will be the final patch for the final game in the series. I just can't help but think that Ubisoft (collective, ie devs and suits) have been quite disinterested in supporting SH5 (ironic really, given all the "You must buy this game to support the series" rants of so recent. ). I was tempted to select "Total fiasco", as that certainly is my view of the Ubisoft (again, collective) handling of the game, but I chose not to as I felt that option was only for those who have played the game. I would really hate to upset the few people here who think that those who don't own the game aren't entitled to an opinion on it. "So why then post here?" I hear you ask. Simple, I don't want the game to "suck". If the response from players to 1.2 was as glowing as the anticipation was (remember the "1.2 will fix all our problems" posts?), then I'd be the first to select one of the other more favourable options. But, alas, with each passing day it is looking less likely.

05-18-10, 03:04 PM	#11
Sub Marauder Mate Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 52 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Redundant choices. __________________

05-19-10, 01:42 AM	#12
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	It's a great game It's a great game。I like it very much.Hope everyone understands the game developers, they are not easy. If you do not believe that you try development of a game。 Long live the understanding。

05-12-10, 09:20 AM	#13
Westbroek Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA Posts: 256 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 0	It's a great game that will continue to get even better. Not any more of a fiasco than any other pc release lately. It's people freaking out here that make it seem like a fiasco. Cheers, W __________________ .Godspeed.

05-12-10, 09:33 AM	#14
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, easy: few of the things promised and highly anticioated features (wolfpacks, etc.) work properly, plenty of remnant features of SHIII don't work as they used to either, lots of stuff I had gotten so used to and made SHIII+GWX such a gem have been dropped out entirely (Type II, IX, XXI, later years, the baracks etc, crew losses etc). Patching and support does occur at a bare minium level, and if I had bought it, I would be really angry now, probably feel quite stupid and cheated. Ubi is not any better than the people they aimed the DRM chains at -- oh, ups, they aimed at the loyal customers (and resellers), I forgot. Hey, but you can walk through your underpopulated, overscaled submarine interior all day long, don't even have to care about submarine warfare and get soup all along! And yeah, it has so beautiful graphics! Especially when you see the screenshots of ships running on shore, or running through each other... /sarcasm end/. I guess there is, thus far, only one possible conclusion... __________________ Scientific facts are not determined by the opinion of the majority, nor by a democratic vote.