SimHQ Reviews SH5

[McBeck]

How come the play is any good when AI is more stupid than a snail? If you are happy wasting your money on buying a cripped half backed game then keep it to you otherwise you sound fool of your self.

As far as I understand that is actully historicly correct. Things will change later in the game. Have you played in 43?

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by McBeck

As far as I understand that is actully historicly correct. Things will change later in the game. Have you played in 43?

When we talk about retarded AI, is not only about escorts, is about anything that is AI in the game. Here a quick example.

Convoy stuck after I attacked from the middle of it:


No comment. Image is resized, but I think everybody can see what's wrong with the AI in the image.. quick hint, the escort was heading toward me on max speed.


These are things that mods can't fix.

[John Channing]

Maybe I am thick but if your point is that the convoy ships scattered after the attack this was not unusual in the early days of the war and it would drive the escort captains crazy. Most of the merchant ships were captained by men who were not used to convoy tactics and had very little dicipline.

It was not unusual for the escorts to have to go chasing after merchants that seemed to be incapable of station keeping even when there had not been an attack. After an attack occasionally all hell would break loose.

JCC

[McBeck]

Originally Posted by John Channing

Maybe I am thick but if your point is that the convoy ships scattered after the attack this was not unusual in the early days of the war and it would drive the escort captains crazy. Most of the merchant ships were captained by men who were not used to convoy tactics and had very little dicipline.

It was not unusual for the escorts to have to go chasing after merchants that seemed to be incapable of station keeping even when there had not been an attack. After an attack occasionally all hell would break loose.

JCC

This book is a good read and it goes into how the convoys started:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Captain/...tt_at_ep_dpt_9

[609_Avatar]

I think Tom did a good job with his review. I don't have the game but have played it a few times on my brother-in-laws rig to get a feel for it.

[Faamecanic]

Same convoy AI we saw in SH3 and 4.... I suspect the convoy AI didnt get updated because the Devs were too busy coding the effects of Olaf's soup (which is bugged to btw)...

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

It's pathetic really, and you must question whether or not some of these 'critics' even have the game.

No need to be pathetic on buying a half backed bucked game!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Figures, there always has to be one guy that thinks I wasn't rough enough on the game.

Now I know how the Principal felt when he had to sit there and listen to Billy Madison's explanation of the Industrial Revolution.

Certainly that always exit a guy that can make a concious decision on not following revision specially when most of the issues pointed out completely differ from the summary at the end.

There are two types of lovers, those that love someone who love back at same level or those that love someone who hit back with just pain. Same to say exist those gamers that are so blind that ignore all the problems just to recommend other gamers to buy crap just because they love a brand.

How can you hard recommend an UNFINISHED utterly bugged game beside the DRM abortion?

Good revision but very bad recommendation!

Nothing personal but this has to be said whatever you like or not otherwise you would add the question here if your revision were good.

happy days! Cheers

[SimHq Tom Cofield]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

mebbe he had a good reason to say SOMETHING good about the game.
like, mebbe his boss told hoim to do so?
and like, mebbe his boss got a new ferrari enzo if the review wasnt totally negative?
mebbe? whonows...

First off.

NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO WRITE OR WHAT NOT TO WRITE! Not developers, not editors, not site owners. None have ever told me what to write. I have and do ask for input from other people because there are times when I am either mistaken or just plain wrong about something but I am not ever pressured to do one kind of review or another.

As much as some of you would hate to hear it, this isn't a totally awful game. No, I can't recommend it and I don't recommend it. Even without the awful DRM system that is in the game I wouldn't recommend it. IN fact, I made damned sure that to keep as much of the DRM stuff out of my review as possible so I could give a more unbiased view of the game as a game. I ended up writing a long editorial to accompany this review so people would know exactly what I thought of the DRM scheme in this game and in similar games.

But there are things I like. I like the concept of crew management, I like the campaign, buggy as it is. I like the fact that you have to sometimes go to a station to get a full idea of what is going on. I don't like the lack of commands, I don't like the bugs, I don't think they implemented the crew management properly, I think the AI is spotty (just like SHIII and IV) at times and some of the basic things that I expect in a game are missing. I pointed that out but I am not going to write three or four pages of constant griping and slamming.

A review has to point out good and bad parts of a game. Whether you like it or not this game has some good points. It isn't totally awful. After 10 years of reviewing games I know awful, I have played awful, I have reviewed awful. This isn't awful but I couldn't recommend it and I didn't recommend it.

[SimHq Tom Cofield]

Originally Posted by thyro

Certainly that always exit a guy that can make a concious decision on not following revision specially when most of the issues pointed out completely differ from the summary at the end.

There are two types of lovers, those that love someone who love back at same level or those that love someone who hit back with just pain. Same to say exist those gamers that are so blind that ignore all the problems just to recommend other gamers to buy crap just because they love a brand.

How can you hard recommend an UNFINISHED utterly bugged game beside the DRM abortion?

Good revision but very bad recommendation!

Nothing personal but this has to be said whatever you like or not otherwise you would add the question here if your revision were good.

happy days! Cheers

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I won't bother you to go and actually try reading it again but here is the final part of my review. Let me know how this is a recommendation to buy it.

Once players can get past these issues, there is a potential for a lot of fun with this game. There is a lot of good here and I honestly think that if Silent Hunter 5 follows the series history and is patched adequately, this will be a winner. Sadly, the fact is for right now, I cannot recommend Silent Hunter 5: Battle of the Atlantic in its current condition.

That is not a recommendation.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by thyro

No need to be pathetic on buying a half backed bucked game!

Here's an idea, don't like it? Go make your own. That way you can cater to your individual needs.

Originally Posted by SimHq Tom Cofield

Thyro, did you even read the review of the game?

I doubt it, he's one of the 'evil SH5' rant brigade, reading and comprehension are not exactly personal strengths!

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

I doubt it, he's one of the 'evil SH5' rant brigade, reading and comprehension are not exactly personal strengths!

I must admit that I did not comprehend exactly what a 'half backed bucked game' actually was. If I knew what one of those was, I could form an opinion either way.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I must admit that I did not comprehend exactly what a 'half backed bucked game' actually was. If I knew what one of those was, I could form an opinion either way.

A buck with a half a back, perhaps? No idea what he was going on about either, I can only assume someone's been raiding their 'stash' again!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Here's an idea, don't like it? Go make your own. That way you can cater to your individual needs.



I doubt it, he's one of the 'evil SH5' rant brigade, reading and comprehension are not exactly personal strengths!

Ranting is what you are doing here. If you have nothing to add then please shut up

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by thyro

Ranting is what you are doing here. If you have nothing to add then please shut up

A case of the pot calling the kettle black methinks....