Conservative white men probably have no problem with this..

[CaptainHaplo]

Funny Torvald - more racism and hate from you.

Had you actually read the entire article - you would have found this:

Veloz was automatically a citizen at birth, though his parents never obtained his certificate of citizenship. In 2006, Veloz was convicted of receiving stolen property after purchasing a car that had been stolen. He served eight months and was about to be released from prison when he was turned over to ICE.

So what you have here is a criminal who LACKS the proper documentation to demonstrate he is a citizen. First of all - his conviction of a crime seriously curtails his normal rights as a citizen to start with - and the fact he was born outside this country - yet failed to insure he had all his own ducks in a row, just shows how everyone wants to blame others instead of take responsibility for themselves.

Had he not been trafficing in stolen property, it wouldn't have been an issue - that isn't ICE's fault. Had he had his documentation in order (which BTW I have mine - its not hard to get) - it wouldn't have been a problem. Both of these issues were his failures.

Stop trying to race bait and make it out like all the poor immigrants are getting the railroad.

[Turbografx]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

So what you have here is a criminal who LACKS the proper documentation to demonstrate he is a citizen. First of all - his conviction of a crime seriously curtails his normal rights as a citizen to start with

Had he not been trafficing in stolen property, it wouldn't have been an issue - that isn't ICE's fault.

You're reading a lot into it. I didn't see trafficking stolen property, I saw "bought stolen car".. I guess his stolen property senses weren't working that day. If you buy something used from an individual how do you tell if it is stolen? Ask for a receipt?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Turbografx

If you buy something used from an individual how do you tell if it is stolen? Ask for a receipt?

ask for a copy of the title

Im guessing you have not purchased a used car from a private owner before?

you dont just walk up to a random shady dude and say "Nice car, here is cash, ill take the keys, Kthxbi!"

and yes, Torvald is one of our more racist members here at subsim based on what i have read... He loves to start most of these sorts of threads with jabs at conservative white guys for some reason

something tells me if i had started multiple threads out with "Bet the ghetto ass black folks would be mad about this!" i would get the ban hammer in about 10 seconds flat. The guy is an instigator. Period

anyhow, yeah, you buy stolen property, you ARE guilty by the letter of the law of trafficking stolen goods.

a lot of what you buy, and the circumstances under which you bought it has to do with the extend to which you are punished, but its the same as being "guilty by association"

for example: hop in a car with your friend, your friend stops and the bank, and comes running out with all their money and drives off... guess what my friend, in the law's eyes you are an accessory to armed bank robbery

sucks, but **** happens.

as far as "giving Texas back to the Mexicans" comments

why dont we give America Back to the British so the British can give it back to the Native Americans and so on and so on and so on.

you really could say this garbage about any state / nation / country / continent except maybe Antarctica.

I have had to (yes as a whitey cracker honky) prove my citizenship to the authorities before.

it took about 30 seconds, and ended with "Thank you sir, have a nice day."

anyone who cant handle this is a real nancy boy

EDIT:

On another note, Texas is not the issue here dude... CALIFORNIA is the issue.

California is a perfect scale model as to what unchecked illegal immigration can do to a nation.

I say give California back to mexico... oh wait, they already took it back

(notice the flag pole at left)

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

EDIT:

On another note, Texas is not the issue here dude... CALIFORNIA is the issue.

California is a perfect scale model as to what unchecked illegal immigration can do to a nation.

I say give California back to mexico... oh wait, they already took it back

(notice the flag pole at left)

Nice exsample of the world historys biggest migration movements that are going on.
Any American that feels offended by that has every right to feel that way.
Being labelled a WASP or some other title should be considered a compliment.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Happy Times

Nice exsample of the world historys biggest migration movements that are going on.
Any American that feels offended by that has every right to feel that way.
Being labelled a WASP or some other title should be considered a compliment.

being labeled a Mexican should also be a compliment

being labeled a lot of things would be a "compliment" depending upon how the label was applied.

ie.

"You industrious, and hard working Mexicans should be proud"

vs

"You crude, racist white men should be ashamed."

just depends on how you use it in the sentence

[CaptainHaplo]

The flag in the background says it all.

The people screaming - have no interest in assimilating - they are out to put their ethnicity over that of the citizens of the land they are - yes - invading.

Legal immigration is about becoming american - putting your loyalty and effort into this country. This is why the ILLEGAL immigrant isn't wanted - because while they "MAY" work - they also refuse to learn the language, the history, or conform to the law.

If you want to be in America - then you need to either put America first - or recognize that while your here - follow that old saying...

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" - instead of demanding that you be catered to through language, welfare and everything else.

[tater]

We ran into a protest today in Santa Fe. All in Spanish. Aside from the US flags placed up front by the organizers? All Mexican flags.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

The people screaming - have no interest in assimilating - they are out to put their ethnicity over that of the citizens of the land they are - yes - invading.

What "[ethnicity] of the citizens of the land"?

Legal immigration is about becoming american - putting your loyalty and effort into this country. This is why the ILLEGAL immigrant isn't wanted - because while they "MAY" work - they also refuse to learn the language, the history, or conform to the law.

Who care's about assimilation? We are not the Borg. People can speak whatever language they like, or maintain any (legal) cultural practices they so wish.