[REQ] Re-cloning of the AI subs

[SquareSteelBar]

Originally Posted by LGN1

...@SquareSteelBar: I thought that originally Pack3D was used and the IDs were not all remapped...

AFAIK Pack3D does the job properly. Backup AI sub files and give it a try...

[flakmonkey]

I always had trouble with pack3d, there were 4 or 5 different versions, some would open only some dat files others could open others but not all dats, some would reverse the meshes when extracting etc... it all got a bit confusing in the end, not that it wasnt an invaluable tool at the time, but for a simpleton like me, s3d is much more user friendly

Anyway, s3d has a remap Ids function, (tools>remap ids), it`ll change every id in the dat, should do the trick.

Pack3d will NOT remap all ID's
Animations are one example of ID's not remapped.
Simple Key framed animations yes.
But not Mesh or complex Key Frame.

[SquareSteelBar]

Originally Posted by privateer

Pack3d will NOT remap all ID's
Animations are one example of ID's not remapped.
Simple Key framed animations yes.
But not Mesh or complex Key Frame.

Sorry, didn't know that...

IDDuplicateFinder should be integrated in S3Ditor....

Some of the Duplicates found are needed.
For connecting things to objects in the dat and such.
But it's a great tool for really tracking what's going on.
Index the Library once!

[LGN1]

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

I always had trouble with pack3d, there were 4 or 5 different versions, some would open only some dat files others could open others but not all dats, some would reverse the meshes when extracting etc... it all got a bit confusing in the end, not that it wasnt an invaluable tool at the time, but for a simpleton like me, s3d is much more user friendly

Anyway, s3d has a remap Ids function, (tools>remap ids), it`ll change every id in the dat, should do the trick.

Hi flakmonkey,

I am aware of S3D's remap function, however, I think that one has to be careful because there will be a problem if some other files contain a link to the IDs. When using the remap function one has to make sure that the links to the IDs are changed accordingly in other files. Now you need to know which other files contain links to the IDs you want to change. As h.sie wrote, you can use S3D again to check which files contain a link, however, this is a lot of work.

Do you know which files contain references to some IDs from the AI turms?

Cheers, LGN1

Do you REALLY want a list?
I have one sitting on my desktop right now I can upload.


It lists all turms, all files, all duplicate ID's!

[LGN1]

Originally Posted by privateer

Do you REALLY want a list?
I have one sitting on my desktop right now I can upload.


It lists all turms, all files, all duplicate ID's!

Hi privateer,

thanks for the offer. Sounds like a looooooooooong list Seems a more practical way is to just change the IDs in the AI turms when one observes a problem.

BTW, any news on the stuff I sent you?

Best, LGN1

You need to remind me of what you sent.
Sorry Mate.
It's my bad!


Yes the list is long.
But many ID's were re-used in the original SH3.
Most times that causes no problems.
As people cloned stuff with Pack3d?
The problem was compounded as Pack3d does not change all ID's.
With so many new mods?
We have seen the problem of Duplicate ID's raise it's ugly head.


I did not write the program that can scan a folder for duplicate ID's.
Ref did.

It's a very nice program to have.
As I have tried to contact him?
And many others have tried also.
With no responce.

I believe it's time to release his tool.
If I catch flak over this?
So be it.
But Ref always believed in helping the SubSim Community.

So once again Ref helps everyone.
Thanks to Ref!
I hope to see you return one day Mate!


http://www.mediafire.com/?knmmqnzibt0

[Volk2]

Originally Posted by privateer

I did not write the program that can scan a folder for duplicate ID's.
Ref did.
http://www.mediafire.com/?knmmqnzibt0

The link is dead Could you upload it again? I have problems with those duplicates on turms...