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Old 04-22-10, 03:21 PM   #46
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Oh I don't think there is anything wrong with my OP. Imagine if these were Muslims rioting, what would the reaction be then?
This is not pertinent to the thread. This is about Thailand. Imagine it is just Thailand. No reason to make comparisons with Muslims or anyone else for that matter. It is nothing but fluff and detracts from the real discussion concerning Thailand.
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Imagine if these were Muslims rioting, what would the reaction be then?
When that was going on in Iran... where there is a significant Muslim population... i thought the world was quite supportive of the people
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This is not pertinent to the thread. This is about Thailand. Imagine it is just Thailand. No reason to make comparisons with Muslims or anyone else for that matter. It is nothing but fluff and detracts from the real discussion concerning Thailand.
Oh that kind of freedom of speech. I'm beginning to get it now.
 
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Oh that kind of freedom of speech. I'm beginning to get it now.
Yes, freedom of speech! Problem is, Muslims are not part of the Thailand issues occurring at the moment. Makes no sense to bring up Muslims or anyone else for that matter in a thread about Thailand riots.
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This is not pertinent to the thread. This is about Thailand. Imagine it is just Thailand. No reason to make comparisons with Muslims or anyone else for that matter. It is nothing but fluff and detracts from the real discussion concerning Thailand.
Yeah I would've agreed until I read this:

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have been murdering innocent people for quite a while now (as Muslims are wont to do)
Emphasis mine, because, yeah, the Muslim I worked for just murdered another innocent person today, that's two for the week and over three dozen for the year so far.



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Oh I don't think there is anything wrong with my OP. Imagine if these were Muslims rioting, what would the reaction be then? There would be people demanding the bombing of Bangkok etc. And that's just here in Subsim.
One, Muslim's rioting would not be news, just another day at the office for them.

Two, Muslims are murdering people in Thailand right now, and it is not covered at all. They are sort of like "youths" in France.

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Thailand is a very important part of western rule in Asia, a kind of cheap brothel. It's a model for other Asian countries in what they should be like if they want to stay on good terms with the west. I guess the poor in Thailand are fed up being the brothel of the west.
In my experience by the "west" you must mostly mean Europe. I agree (there was a period—Viet Nam War era—when US dominated this, to be sure). That said, the sex trade is technically illegal, and mostly exists due to Thai corruption (it's also a very sad thing, kids are literally sold into sexual slavery. It's disgusting to see them with fat "sex-tourists" as you do even away from Bangkok.
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Yes, freedom of speech! Problem is, Muslims are not part of the Thailand issues occurring at the moment. Makes no sense to bring up Muslims or anyone else for that matter in a thread about Thailand riots.
Sadly this is not true. They have a continuing problem in the south of the country.
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Ok, so we take a look at what tater is speaking of:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...051833/1/.html

Was OTH realling speaking of this issue or was the comment about carpet bombing just a side deal to ruffle a few feathers?
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Sadly this is not true. They have a continuing problem in the south of the country.

Yes sir, just looked it up. See above.
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In my experience by the "west" you must mostly mean Europe. I agree (there was a period—Viet Nam War era—when US dominated this, to be sure). That said, the sex trade is technically illegal, and mostly exists due to Thai corruption (it's also a very sad thing, kids are literally sold into sexual slavery. It's disgusting to see them with fat "sex-tourists" as you do even away from Bangkok.
Man...that is a whole other thread. It is very disgusting.
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Ok, so we take a look at what tater is speaking of:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...051833/1/.html

Was OTH realling speaking of this issue or was the comment about carpet bombing just a side deal to ruffle a few feathers?
Nope, and as you can see the casualties being Muslims the thing is not covered in western medias in any way. How surprising.

By carpet bombing I meant what is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan right this moment and has been going on for close to a decade in Afghanistan and 7 plus years in Iraq.
 
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Nope, and as you can see the casualties being Muslims the thing is not covered in western medias in any way. How surprising.

By carpet bombing I meant what is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan right this moment and has been going on for close to a decade in Afghanistan and 7 plus years in Iraq.
Yes, I understood the carpet bombing in Iraq, etc. You are correct, the western medias do not follow the Muslim's goings on in Thailand. Why do you think this is?
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Yes, I understood the carpet bombing in Iraq, etc. You are correct, the western medias do not follow the Muslim's goings on in Thailand. Why do you think this is?
The south of Thailand is not really a tourist region, it's a poor region, even poorer then the rest of Thailand. Very few westeners there so no real reason to waste the spotlight on them. That's how it works with the western media.
 
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The south of Thailand is not really a tourist region, it's a poor region, even poorer then the rest of Thailand. Very few westeners there so no real reason to waste the spotlight on them. That's how it works with the western media.
But as tater points out, the slave trade in that region, this is usually in the western media news from time to time. Sick activity that it is.

But back to the original question....is it possible that this area lacking in oil is not an interest of the US thus no media attention? Often it is said that Iraq war is about oil. I agree to some degree. Perhaps the carpet bombings would begin if the interest of the US was there?
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The south of Thailand is not really a tourist region, it's a poor region, even poorer then the rest of Thailand. Very few westeners there so no real reason to waste the spotlight on them. That's how it works with the western media.
Alright Herring, I'll bite. Let's pretend for a moment that we all live in your perfect world where nobody ignores people because they are brown and Westerners aren't a bunch of ignorant, consumerist oppressors. What then? We'll ferry our vast wealth to Thailand and it will make it all better?

It just so happens that we already send vast amounts of aid to desperately poor and conflicted countries. It rarely does any good, though, because those same countries are in the state they are in because of their own rulers. No amount of money or non-monetary aid will ever change their plight. Centralist governments are like a black hole when it comes to economics. They will swallow every resource you throw at them without yielding anything of value. That's not theory or speculation, that's just how they work.

If you're such a noble egalitarian, how's about you give away enough of your own material wealth that you reduce yourself to the standard of living that an average Thai has? That way, you'll get to see the lasting benefits of your contribution (none) and simultaneously demonstrate actual caring about the plight of Thailand, rather than just demanding that other people care about it. I might even be moved to donate myself, in the face of such selfless generosity. Better yet, you won't be able to afford an internet connection, so this discussion will be over.

Well, what are you waiting for? There are starving babies and stuff in Thailand and about 200 other nations. Hop to it!
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