A SH too far?

col_Kurtz · 04-22-10, 01:59 PM

With the whole respect and love for modders...

Should I wait for modders to FINISH and make this game playable for HUMANS or should I buy it?
Why?
Because...
DRM - failed.
Ubisoft - failed again.
SH5 - failed and big mistake.
Players/consumers - game testers for own money?
And the price... to high for a half product.

Just like in the poker game.
I`m waiting... But I`m not going to wait endlessly. DRM off, I will buy. DRM on, forget it!
And maybe on the front of the game box there should be big red capital letters... Only for EXPERIENCED modders from Subsim.com?

conus00 · 04-22-10, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by col_Kurtz

And maybe on the front of the game box there should be big red capital letters... Only for EXPERIENCED modders from Subsim.com?

col_Kurtz · 04-22-10, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by conus00

Am I wrong?

Bothersome · 04-22-10, 04:24 PM

No, you're not wrong.

But to add to the thread some useful knowledge...

If I were even the very best game modder SH5 would ever had seen because of a gift given me straight from the hand of GOD. I would not mod SH5 to fix bugs, but only to add features or content, as that is what modding games was supposed to be about.

But Ubisoft wants the modding community to fix their product while Ubisoft makes all the money.

Now, if it were legal to make money from mods, then modding to fix bugs to make money for me, then I might apply those God given talents.

But Ubisoft doesn't pay modders to fix their bugs. Why not let Ubisoft fix them then? Oh yeah, because you guys think it may be never?

Takao · 04-22-10, 05:27 PM

Ah, yes...

In the old days programs were designed by geniuses to be run by idiots. With Ubi, it has become programs designed by idiots to be modded by geniuses.

conus00 · 04-22-10, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by col_Kurtz

Am I wrong?

No, you're dead on! I just found the statement hilarious.

krashkart · 04-22-10, 10:44 PM

From reading reviews and perusing the threads up here in SH5 Land, for once I am glad I own a computer that is too weak to run a game. There is another aspect to my madness at work here: I have bought many a game in the last ten years and to an extent some of them they were just too flaky. A patch or two to fix minor bugs and add new capabilities to a game is the way it should be done. A series of patches to complete a half-finished game? Sorry, but my $60+ will be better spent taking the parents out to a BBQ dinner.

As for the DRM scheme, respectfully I must decline. Developers and publishers must protect their properties, merchandise and rights from being compromised - and that is perfectly understandable. However, I feel that the DRM implemented in Silent Hunter 5 and other Ubisoft titles is far too restrictive on many would-be customers. Many would-be customers have already pointed out why they don't like the DRM/OSP, so I will just add that my own internet connection doesn't need to be active at all times -- particularly when gaming. System resources are just as tight as my wallet these days.

My only advice/soapbox preaching to any uninitiated gamers is to wait until a few months after the game is released before deciding whether or not to buy it. Do some research on the product. Wait for any game-killing bugs to be patched, or just simply wait a year or two before putting any money into it. By then a good game should have a good following, and plenty of solutions.

04-22-10, 01:59 PM	#1
col_Kurtz XO Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 424 Downloads: 341 Uploads: 0	With the whole respect and love for modders... Should I wait for modders to FINISH and make this game playable for HUMANS or should I buy it? Why? Because... DRM - failed. Ubisoft - failed again. SH5 - failed and big mistake. Players/consumers - game testers for own money? And the price... to high for a half product. Just like in the poker game. I`m waiting... But I`m not going to wait endlessly. DRM off, I will buy. DRM on, forget it! And maybe on the front of the game box there should be big red capital letters... Only for EXPERIENCED modders from Subsim.com? __________________ DRM it`s a horror, horror... col. Kurtz Apocalypse Now WinXP Pro SP3 2x1GB Geil 800Mhz DDR2, ATI 4850 Asus Top, E2160 1.80 Ghz overlocked to 2.79Ghz MoBo Asus P5b

04-22-10, 10:44 PM	#7
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	From reading reviews and perusing the threads up here in SH5 Land, for once I am glad I own a computer that is too weak to run a game. There is another aspect to my madness at work here: I have bought many a game in the last ten years and to an extent some of them they were just too flaky. A patch or two to fix minor bugs and add new capabilities to a game is the way it should be done. A series of patches to complete a half-finished game? Sorry, but my $60+ will be better spent taking the parents out to a BBQ dinner. As for the DRM scheme, respectfully I must decline. Developers and publishers must protect their properties, merchandise and rights from being compromised - and that is perfectly understandable. However, I feel that the DRM implemented in Silent Hunter 5 and other Ubisoft titles is far too restrictive on many would-be customers. Many would-be customers have already pointed out why they don't like the DRM/OSP, so I will just add that my own internet connection doesn't need to be active at all times -- particularly when gaming. System resources are just as tight as my wallet these days. My only advice/soapbox preaching to any uninitiated gamers is to wait until a few months after the game is released before deciding whether or not to buy it. Do some research on the product. Wait for any game-killing bugs to be patched, or just simply wait a year or two before putting any money into it. By then a good game should have a good following, and plenty of solutions. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

04-22-10, 04:24 PM	#4
Bothersome Planesman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 194 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	No, you're not wrong. But to add to the thread some useful knowledge... If I were even the very best game modder SH5 would ever had seen because of a gift given me straight from the hand of GOD. I would not mod SH5 to fix bugs, but only to add features or content, as that is what modding games was supposed to be about. But Ubisoft wants the modding community to fix their product while Ubisoft makes all the money. Now, if it were legal to make money from mods, then modding to fix bugs to make money for me, then I might apply those God given talents. But Ubisoft doesn't pay modders to fix their bugs. Why not let Ubisoft fix them then? Oh yeah, because you guys think it may be never?

04-22-10, 05:27 PM	#5
Takao Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 244 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ah, yes... In the old days programs were designed by geniuses to be run by idiots. With Ubi, it has become programs designed by idiots to be modded by geniuses.