Sedition...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

.....you would just end up with another bunch of fools in their place.

Verifiably true, as this has been going on for as long as there have been governments.

Yuri: "Comrade, what is difference between Communism and Captitalism?"

Viktor: "I don't know, comrade. What is difference between Communism and Captitalism?"

Yuri: "With Captitalism, man exploits his fellow man for his own evil purposes. With Communism, is other way around!"

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Sedition?

How about Treason?!

The United States Congress is the most Treasonous bunch of bastards this country has seen in a long time.

If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by Platapus

If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.

Actually probably not.

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

.....you would just end up with another bunch of fools in their place.

Which my good fellow, we may not by any means hope to endure. good day.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Platapus

If you have proof of this, I am sure the Attorney General would like to hear about it.

Well i'll just put it this way... if the following list of infractions dont qualify as Treason against the American People... they should

Our government has done nothing but give industry incentives to to business anywhere BUT America for starters.

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The United States Congress has failed to enact laws which protect and uphold the sovereignty of our great nation further failing to ensure the enforcement of such laws.


The United States Congress has fallen in line with corporate lobbyists, protecting not the interests of the free citizens of these United States, but instead protecting the corporate interests of those private enterprises of business.


The United States Congress has divided itself into a irreparable rift of “left” versus “right” which serves only to split the masses, sending our system of federal legislature into a mentality of complete and total halt of effective governing.


The United States Congress has repeatedly voted itself raises, given itself the best health care, created for itself a decadent and lavish retirement plan while only increasing the tax burden of the American Citizen.


The United States Congress has failed to operate in the good faith of bipartisanship on the smallest of governmental issues.


The United States Congress has split itself into closed doors meetings, inaccessible to the American Citizenry.


The United States Congress has repeatedly passed massive, and unsustainable spending bills which the American economy, no matter how strong, could never hope to sustain in any sense of reality.


The United States Congress has passed bills directly affecting the lifestyle, the freedoms, the happiness, and the liberties of the American Citizenry without the voting representatives being fully familiar with the contents of such bills themselves.


The United States Congress has ignored repeated insistence by the people that our borders be secured and our sovereignty be upheld.


The United States Congress has repeatedly authorized the export of industries vital to the United States of America to foreign shores.


The United States Congress has illegally used treasury funds to bail out failed and corrupted private industries and businesses.


The United States Congress has levied taxes against the American Citizenry while failing to represent our interests through the complete and thorough examination of pieces of legislature before them.


The United States Congress has entrusted oil and fuel production vital to our national security to nations outside of our borders, some of which are openly hostile towards us through subversion and acts of war.

[Platapus]

In other words you have a different opinion on what the government does/should do.

Did I summarize that up correctly?

[Platapus]

Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 115 Section 2381

Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

If you really feel that Congress has committed acts of treason, you have to report it other wise be guilty of Misprision of Treason

Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 115 Section 2382

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.

I don't think it is a good thing to be accusing members of our government of Treason, unless you really understand what Treason is.

Treason is not just having a different opinion than you.

But if you feel you have proof of Treason, you now know what you have to do.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Title 18 Part 1 Chapter 115 Section 2381

Who needs laws for that? Treason is defined in the Constitution.

Originally Posted by The United States Constitution

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

[August]

Where was Joe Klein when the Hillary said:

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."

I guess it's only sedition if it's uttered by non Democrats...

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by August

Where was Joe Klein when the Hillary said:

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."

I guess it's only sedition if it's uttered by non Democrats...

It's the tone of voice I guess (cringing).

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Where was Joe Klein when the Hillary said:

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."

I guess it's only sedition if it's uttered by non Democrats...

Look at what the left was crying for... impeachment of GWB for war crimes. THAT is patriotism. Operating within the legal boundaries of the government that we have set up for ourselves. Now contrast that with the teabaggers "We came unarmed this time" sort of thing. Do you see the difference? One operates within the legal and constitutional boundaries of our government, the other wants to overthrow it.

[GoldenRivet]

Platapus,

Opinions have nothing to do with it.

The United States Congress has unequivocally run virtually every industry OUT of the United States of America. Where did they send these industries?

China and the middle eastern nations primarily.

Two areas of the world which...

a. contain the largest amount of Anti-American sentiment known to mankind.

b. One of which produces the largest number of terrorist individuals ANYWHERE

If the federal government whored out your job, your living, your industry your way of life to a nation whose citizens frequently commit open acts of war against your nation... would that not be aiding and comforting an enemy of the United States?

take our jobs away and give them to the people who are tying to kill us... smart!

EDIT:

Congress is being treasonous against the citizens of these states by furthering our burdens, and taxing us without honest representation by either party

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Look at what the left was crying for... impeachment of GWB for war crimes. THAT is patriotism. Operating within the legal boundaries of the government that we have set up for ourselves. Now contrast that with the teabaggers "We came unarmed this time" sort of thing. Do you see the difference? One operates within the legal and constitutional boundaries of our government, the other wants to overthrow it.

The left was crying for the installation of a leftist government and was willing to do or say anything to achieve it.

And as long as you call them "Teabaggers" then I get to call you a dirty Commie. Fair enough?

[GoldenRivet]

August,

it is clear mookie has a blind allegiance to the messiah.

Once i had a blind allegiance to Bush - but i quickly grew out of that and realized my foolish ways about 1/4 of the way through his second term.

Hopefully Mookie and the rest of the followers can figure this out much sooner on their own than i did.

You see... his kind has no respect for the right... and views us as warring clans or warring rivals.

"we the right" will always be held in his eyes as the lowest form of life on earth- a life form which must work to give many of his friends their free ride.

what he fails to understand - many of the TEA party members are dissatisfied with both halves of the isle

Once i had a blind allegiance to Bush - but i quickly grew out of that and realized my foolish ways about 1/4 of the way through his second term.

Wow, it took you about 5 years after his election to the highest office to realise Bush was a pillock.
Didn't the fact that he was a politician give you some sort of clue?

You see... his kind has no respect for the right... and views us as warring clans or warring rivals.

Its true about the warring clans, many people view the teabaggers as some sort of semi modern version of the Hatfields or McCoys