[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0

[flapjack]

Hi RFB team, great mod!

I'm running RFB 2.0, RSRDC for RFB, RSRDC patch (in that order).

I noticed two problems. Both occurred on the Single Mission "Borneo Convoy" with the Gato-class sub.

== Problem #1: DD depth charges ==

The DD's depth-charged me over a period of about 15 minutes, then stopped. They were still searching for me, pinging, and finding me, but they'd just zoom over my position without actually dropping depth charges.

In external cam view, I noticed that all three of the DD's were actually missing their DC racks. I only bothered to look after the depth charge attacks stopped, so I don't know if the racks were there when I was being depth-charged earlier.

I noticed that others reported this problem earlier in the thread, so I was wondering if it was resolved.


== Problem #2: Stuttering / low frame rate ==

Some interior views, and exterior views of the surfaced sub, would drop my framerate from typical 25-30 down to 2 or 1, rendering the game almost entirely unplayable. I also noticed that some of the crew (light blue shirt, white sailor's cap) were somewhat transparent. From outside on the bridge, I could the bridge railings right through them! I think this is related to the low FPS.

This is actually a big problem for me, because the drop in frame-rate occurs for maybe 75% of the viewable area of bridge, and almost the entire control room. At 2 fps, the game is totally unplayable.


Note: I haven't installed the March 7 patch yet, so maybe that will fix the problem. But I didn't see anything about these issues in the messages about that patch, so ... yeah. :-)

Thanks again for a great mod!

-- flapjack

[Phantom II]

Hey guys, some of you might have already seen my thread in SH4 General.

Anyway, I've got a Steam version of SH4 + U-Boat Missions all updated to v1.5, and I can run the game over and over and over without any hiccups whatsoever.

BUT, when I install RFB 2.0 (using JGSME of course) things start to go wrong. When I start in port (lets say, its a December 1941 career at Pearl), when I go to the Bridge view, the game simply freezes for a second or so as if its trying to load something, then crashes to desktop. I've tried going straight to external camera instead of going to the bridge. This kinda works, but causes all kinds of other problems. Sometimes some of the textures on the ships in port will dissappear. In some places, when I look at certain angles, my entire screen turns a bright green, and when I take the camera under water, the screen either goes black, and the game keeps running, or the game crashes to desktop.

Now I'm thinking its some sort of rendering issue with the mod maybe. I'm running an ATI Radeon 4870X2, I've tried enabling and disabling all kinds of different settings in the Catalyst Control Centre, and I've tried some different drivers, and none of it seems to change anything.

If anyone here has any ideas, that would be great as I feel I am missing out on an awesome mod.

Thanks in advance
Phantom

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by Phantom II

If anyone here has any ideas, that would be great as I feel I am missing out on an awesome mod.

So it works fine without mods, but adding RFB causes problems? Are you on Vista or Windows 7, installing in C:\Program Files\..."?

Are you running any other mods? If so, what order are you installing them?

[Phantom II]

Originally Posted by theluckyone17

So it works fine without mods, but adding RFB causes problems? Are you on Vista or Windows 7, installing in C:\Program Files\..."?

Are you running any other mods? If so, what order are you installing them?

Running Windows Vista 64bit. Install path is D:\Steam\steamapps\common\silent hunter wolves of the pacific\

Just running RFB2.0, until I can get it to work properly, before I start adding more mods.

[flapjack]

Here's a screencap of one of the stern of one of the DD's from the Borneo Convoy mission (see quoted message). Note the lack of depth charge racks.



-- flapjack

Originally Posted by flapjack

Hi RFB team, great mod!

I'm running RFB 2.0, RSRDC for RFB, RSRDC patch (in that order).

I noticed two problems. Both occurred on the Single Mission "Borneo Convoy" with the Gato-class sub.

== Problem #1: DD depth charges ==

The DD's depth-charged me over a period of about 15 minutes, then stopped. They were still searching for me, pinging, and finding me, but they'd just zoom over my position without actually dropping depth charges.

In external cam view, I noticed that all three of the DD's were actually missing their DC racks. I only bothered to look after the depth charge attacks stopped, so I don't know if the racks were there when I was being depth-charged earlier.

I noticed that others reported this problem earlier in the thread, so I was wondering if it was resolved.


== Problem #2: Stuttering / low frame rate ==

Some interior views, and exterior views of the surfaced sub, would drop my framerate from typical 25-30 down to 2 or 1, rendering the game almost entirely unplayable. I also noticed that some of the crew (light blue shirt, white sailor's cap) were somewhat transparent. From outside on the bridge, I could the bridge railings right through them! I think this is related to the low FPS.

This is actually a big problem for me, because the drop in frame-rate occurs for maybe 75% of the viewable area of bridge, and almost the entire control room. At 2 fps, the game is totally unplayable.


Note: I haven't installed the March 7 patch yet, so maybe that will fix the problem. But I didn't see anything about these issues in the messages about that patch, so ... yeah. :-)

Thanks again for a great mod!

-- flapjack

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by flapjack

I also noticed that some of the crew (light blue shirt, white sailor's cap) were somewhat transparent. From outside on the bridge, I could the bridge railings right through them! I think this is related to the low FPS.

Do you have volumetric fog and post processing filters enabled? I think that causes the transparent crew...

Can't help you much with the DC-less DD's, other than to ask if they're DD's or subchasers? I've ran across some escorts that don't have DC's... they're effective enough keeping me submerged, so they're still a pain.

[flapjack]

Running the game with low-res textures made the stuttering / framerate drop problem go away completely. I figure that my video card is just running out of memory because of all of the new high-res textures included with RFB. My video card is an NVIDIA 7800GS 256MB, AGP 4x.

Regarding the DD's (yeah, they were actually DD's), the funny thing is that they were actually depth-charging me earlier in the mission. After about fifteen minutes game time, the depth-charging stopped, but I was still hearing pings, and hearing them moving overhead. So I got curious and did a look around, and noticed all of DD's were missing their DC racks. I'm 100% sure that the earlier DD's which were DCing me were the same as the ones I saw later. I haven't been able to recreate the problem since.

-- flapjack

Originally Posted by theluckyone17

Do you have volumetric fog and post processing filters enabled? I think that causes the transparent crew...

Can't help you much with the DC-less DD's, other than to ask if they're DD's or subchasers? I've ran across some escorts that don't have DC's... they're effective enough keeping me submerged, so they're still a pain.

[Sledgehammer427]

there's an old bug if memory serves me right that a destroyer would go slow and drop a shallow depth charge and blow it's racks right off. Perhaps this is what happened to you?

[pointblank]

Hey i downloaded the mod and when i put it and start the mission and when i put it ahead stand it says cannot comply. help!!

[Phantom II]

Originally Posted by theluckyone17

So it works fine without mods, but adding RFB causes problems? Are you on Vista or Windows 7, installing in C:\Program Files\..."?

Are you running any other mods? If so, what order are you installing them?

Hmm I think I MAY be onto the problem. It seems like Steam is trying to 'update' the game to vanilla after I install the mods, causing inconsistencies and corrupt files, etc. I've tried turning automatic updates off, but it keeps turning back on for some reason. I'm going to try disabling the mods, verify the file caches for SH4 and SH4UBM, update the game, disable further updates, and THEN try the mods.

[Phantom II]

GAAAH So after the long arduous process of uninstalling RFB, checking the file integrities, reinstalling RFB, and triple checking that auto updating is OFF, I go to launch the game, AND WHAT DOES IT DO?!?!? It bloody updates -_-

[flapjack]

Brilliant! I think you're right!

I remember watching the depth charging from external camera and noticing some explosions at the tail ends of the DD's.

Is this an SH4 bug, or RFB?

-- flapjack

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

there's an old bug if memory serves me right that a destroyer would go slow and drop a shallow depth charge and blow it's racks right off. Perhaps this is what happened to you?

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by flapjack

== Problem #2: Stuttering / low frame rate ==

Some interior views, and exterior views of the surfaced sub, would drop my framerate from typical 25-30 down to 2 or 1, rendering the game almost entirely unplayable. I also noticed that some of the crew (light blue shirt, white sailor's cap) were somewhat transparent. From outside on the bridge, I could the bridge railings right through them! I think this is related to the low FPS.

This is actually a big problem for me, because the drop in frame-rate occurs for maybe 75% of the viewable area of bridge, and almost the entire control room. At 2 fps, the game is totally unplayable.

Try Alt-Tabbing in and out of the game. It works for me when I have that issue.

[flapjack]

I think the framerate slowdown has to do with a high number of high res textures. When I play the game with low-res textures, I don't have any slowdown whatsoever. Alt-tabbing works for a short while, but the problem comes back after a few minutes.

A potential solution might be dropping the resolution of some of the high-res textures. I'll play around with it to see what works without sacrificing too much visual quality.

-- flapjack

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Try Alt-Tabbing in and out of the game. It works for me when I have that issue.

[Fish40]

The only issue I seem to have is after viewing the radar screen. When returning to the Bridge view, the ocean animation seems to get alittle choppy, sort of what happens after comeing out of TC. Like I said, I only see this after viewing the radar. Can anyone confirm / deny this?