South Korean ship fires on a ship

razark · 04-16-10, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm starting to get bad vibes about this....I can't see her shearing completely in half when she hit the seabed and I doubt divers would or could have cut her in half in such a short time

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Originally Posted by CNN

A South Korean investigator said Friday that an "external explosion" was the most likely cause of the mysterious sinking of a naval ship in which 46 South Korean sailors were lost in tense waters off the North Korean coast.

Neptunus Rex · 04-16-10, 08:11 PM

Mines blow holes in hulls.

Broke up right about mid ship. Right where a homing torpedo would hit, breaking the keel in the middle.

Oberon · 04-17-10, 11:49 AM

It really doesn't look good. I'd be very surprised in that damage was caused by a mine. The ROK is in a very awkward position right now, they don't want to ramp up tensions, but they can't let this go unanswered.

Jimbuna · 04-17-10, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

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I still think the speculation will come up with a variety of causes (as we have already seen)....I'm looking forward to a definitive report/conclusion.

I've little doubt the US Navy will have more than a few of they're experts on site to assist, advise and help determine just what happened.

Oberon · 04-17-10, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I still think the speculation will come up with a variety of causes (as we have already seen)....I'm looking forward to a definitive report/conclusion.

I've little doubt the US Navy will have more than a few of they're experts on site to assist, advise and help determine just what happened.

I think chances are they have a pretty definite conclusion by now...they're just trying to work out what to make public in order to prevent a war or the complete destablisation of the South Korean government.

Jimbuna · 04-17-10, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I think chances are they have a pretty definite conclusion by now...they're just trying to work out what to make public in order to prevent a war or the complete destablisation of the South Korean government.

I reckon your probably right

04-17-10, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I think chances are they have a pretty definite conclusion by now...they're just trying to work out what to make public in order to prevent a war or the complete destablisation of the South Korean government.

Pfft, bollocks. If there were to be any kind of war we would have seen it already. It's just a one more in long line of tit-for-tat - exchanges between the two countries.

Oberon · 04-17-10, 04:44 PM

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Pfft, bollocks. If there were to be any kind of war we would have seen it already. It's just a one more in long line of tit-for-tat - exchanges between the two countries.

I meant more of a clamour from the public for some kind of retribution. If the ROK turns around and states that the DPRK sunk the Cheonan, there will be an uproar both in the ROK and abroad, the DPRK will go into turtle mode, hunker down and deny everything. Meanwhile there'll be protests in Seoul calling for an apology or some kind of reimbursement from the north which will be met with denials and warnings from the north that any kind of offensive actions against the north will be met by 'the total nuclear destruction of South Korea and its allies'. After all, Pyongyang has been more paranoid than usual lately, issuing a warning that any attempts to undermine the DPRKs political power would be met with nuclear destruction, that warning was given a day or two before the Cheonan went down IIRC.
It's not the sort of thing that would immediately lead to a war, not in itself, but as a factor in ongoing tensions on the peninsula, it could be the straw that breaks the camels back, and Seoul knows that.

And yes, we have seen this sort of thing a lot of times before, but, if I'm not mistaken, this is the biggest ship the DPRK has sunk (if they did sink it) since the end of the Korean war is it not?

TLAM Strike · 04-17-10, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

And yes, we have seen this sort of thing a lot of times before, but, if I'm not mistaken, this is the biggest ship the DPRK has sunk (if they did sink it) since the end of the Korean war is it not?

Biggest ship they have sunk Period. Note sure about our Allies and UN forces but the US only lost some mine sweepers in Korea.

Discounting of course the claim by Pyongyang that they bagged the USS Baltimore CA-68.

http://www.korean-war.com/USNavy/usnavyshipssunk.html

The North sank the patrol boat Chamsuri at the 2nd battle of Yeonpyeong in 2002. The PT was salvaged

Jimbuna · 04-17-10, 07:29 PM

Simply tell the bstids to........bring it on!!

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04-17-10, 11:49 AM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It really doesn't look good. I'd be very surprised in that damage was caused by a mine. The ROK is in a very awkward position right now, they don't want to ramp up tensions, but they can't let this go unanswered.