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Old 04-12-10, 01:36 PM   #25
Freiwillige
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State's Rights? Yeah, you are right—the trouble is the right the States wanted to keep as their own prerogative was the right to own human beings. Period.

No slavery, no Civil War, it's as simple as that. They feared that Lincoln and northern congressional majorities would start to dismantle slavery, and left the Union.

You can argue that States should have had the right to leave the Union all you like, but the reality was that they chose to leave in the first place to protect the institution of slavery, nothing more. Assigning it some more admirable purpose retroactively is like claiming that all Germany wanted to do in the 1940s was to spread timely railroad service throughout Europe.
Sorry but I have to disagree. They chose to leave the union to protect their trading rites. They chose to leave the union because they believed that the power of a large federal government over the states was against what was originally set out for this nation. They left the Union because it was their constitutional right. Many States still have that option..Texas is one of them!

I read a great book once that said that if the law of the land was followed that the south could have one hell of a court case against the Government today.

The north occupied the south and made them re write their state constitutions. Well it is said that no state in the union shall do so under military occupation. The idea was to protect against England but since the south ceded the North qualifies as an occupying power.

I am against slavery for sure but I am not against southern independence and the rights of free men to legally vote their fate as they did back then.

But then I digress as UnderseaLcpl already said it best!
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