DRM - Turn Lemons into Lemonade

janh · 04-11-10, 07:50 PM

If ubisoft makes an SHVI, it is going to be for xbox!

mcarlsonus · 04-11-10, 09:14 PM

Well, shoot fellers! It ain't the only time they've tripped over their priorities! Certainly I'm not the only person who remembers the drubbing they took over Starforce...am I?...guys?...guys?...now I'm old AND lonely!

KiwiVenge · 04-11-10, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mcarlsonus

Well, shoot fellers! It ain't the only time they've tripped over their priorities! Certainly I'm not the only person who remembers the drubbing they took over Starforce...am I?...guys?...guys?...now I'm old AND lonely!

I was here for the Starfarce SH3 release experience as well.

Missed out on SH4 though, was too busy with WoW and LOTRO at the time.

Capt_Sluggo · 04-11-10, 10:04 PM

I happen to like your ideas McHub. The mechanism that now serves as a DRM could morph into something that instead adds a dimension.

Ubi's profit interests would be best served if they would meld their desire for an online license check with the desires of the customer. Why not make SH with a playable, but limited, offline mode for those traveling or temporarily without network? For example, continue a mission in progress or play from a selection of war patrols?

For much more, connect online. Advanced (probability generated) enemy AI, the possibility of player-controlled merchants, not to mention the things you dreamed up.

I'm sure that the cynics will now "set me straight" by re-emphasizing the greedy, shortsighted, uncaring and basically inept nature of Ubisoft management. Or lecture about the nuances of MMO-type technology. Still, I wonder what would happen if 5,000 or so registered SH5 owners voiced the same sort of positive "what ifs" that you did.

McHub532 · 04-11-10, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Sluggo

I happen to like your ideas McHub. The mechanism that now serves as a DRM could morph into something that instead adds a dimension.

Ubi's profit interests would be best served if they would meld their desire for an online license check with the desires of the customer. Why not make SH with a playable, but limited, offline mode for those traveling or temporarily without network? For example, continue a mission in progress or play from a selection of war patrols?

For much more, connect online. Advanced (probability generated) enemy AI, the possibility of player-controlled merchants, not to mention the things you dreamed up.

I'm sure that the cynics will now "set me straight" by re-emphasizing the greedy, shortsighted, uncaring and basically inept nature of Ubisoft management. Or lecture about the nuances of MMO-type technology. Still, I wonder what would happen if 5,000 or so registered SH5 owners voiced the same sort of positive "what ifs" that you did.

I like your attitude. We can't change the past; but maybe we can help mold the future.

kylania · 04-11-10, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Sluggo

Ubi's profit interests would be best served if they would meld their desire for an online license check with the desires of the customer.

This, and pretty much every other "online DRM" system coming out now has to do with two things only. One, making sure no one but Ubisoft gets money from these products by eliminating the ability to resell a game. Two, make the players dependent on DLC. Ship a half finished game and dribble out excluded "DLC" content $5-$10 at a time over the course of a year or so, then repeat the whole process with the new version of the game.

Customer's desires have nothing to do with DRM/OSP or any of this, just our money.

They think they'll get more profit if we can ONLY buy from them instead of realizing they'll get more if we WANT to buy from them.

04-12-10, 12:25 AM

Well, for my part, I bought SH3 and loved it, and I bought SH4 and loved that too. But until they knock off this DRM (deleted), I will not buy SHV5.

NefariousKoel · 04-12-10, 01:23 AM

I've been waiting for a hysterical, curse-laced post about the supposed flood of anti-DRM threads around here (and how they should shaddap) but it's not happened yet.

Oh well, I'll keep watching. Maybe go make some popcorn in the meantime.

supposedtobeworking · 04-12-10, 01:35 AM

I'm in agreement with those who think some sort of DLC is the motive. The online DRM has most certainly not stopped the piracy. The game has been cracked and you can easily find a fully cracked, patched, working game with no internet connection required to play as easily as you can find a cracked version of any other game that's been released without the DRM. So to me it is obvious that Ubisoft has their sights set on something else down the road-what exactly I don't know but you can be sure it will cost more money (even after you paid for the game). That would explain why they don't listen to the overwhelming majority of customers who want the online DRM to be removed.

04-12-10, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by janh

If ubisoft makes an SHVI, it is going to be for xbox!

I hate to say it, but thats probably the truth.

BTW - DRM has been bypassed and the campain is working. I have a legal copy installed but the DRM has been removed. So while it took a few weeks longer then anticipated... DRM has been busted.

04-11-10, 07:50 PM	#1
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If ubisoft makes an SHVI, it is going to be for xbox! __________________ Scientific facts are not determined by the opinion of the majority, nor by a democratic vote.

04-12-10, 01:23 AM	#8
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I've been waiting for a hysterical, curse-laced post about the supposed flood of anti-DRM threads around here (and how they should shaddap) but it's not happened yet. Oh well, I'll keep watching. Maybe go make some popcorn in the meantime. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

04-11-10, 09:14 PM	#2
mcarlsonus Weps Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 362 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Well, shoot fellers! It ain't the only time they've tripped over their priorities! Certainly I'm not the only person who remembers the drubbing they took over Starforce...am I?...guys?...guys?...now I'm old AND lonely!

04-11-10, 10:04 PM	#4
Capt_Sluggo Watch Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 30 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I happen to like your ideas McHub. The mechanism that now serves as a DRM could morph into something that instead adds a dimension. Ubi's profit interests would be best served if they would meld their desire for an online license check with the desires of the customer. Why not make SH with a playable, but limited, offline mode for those traveling or temporarily without network? For example, continue a mission in progress or play from a selection of war patrols? For much more, connect online. Advanced (probability generated) enemy AI, the possibility of player-controlled merchants, not to mention the things you dreamed up. I'm sure that the cynics will now "set me straight" by re-emphasizing the greedy, shortsighted, uncaring and basically inept nature of Ubisoft management. Or lecture about the nuances of MMO-type technology. Still, I wonder what would happen if 5,000 or so registered SH5 owners voiced the same sort of positive "what ifs" that you did.

04-12-10, 12:25 AM	#7
Engel der Vernichtung Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well, for my part, I bought SH3 and loved it, and I bought SH4 and loved that too. But until they knock off this DRM (deleted), I will not buy SHV5.

04-12-10, 01:35 AM	#9
supposedtobeworking XO Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 436 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	I'm in agreement with those who think some sort of DLC is the motive. The online DRM has most certainly not stopped the piracy. The game has been cracked and you can easily find a fully cracked, patched, working game with no internet connection required to play as easily as you can find a cracked version of any other game that's been released without the DRM. So to me it is obvious that Ubisoft has their sights set on something else down the road-what exactly I don't know but you can be sure it will cost more money (even after you paid for the game). That would explain why they don't listen to the overwhelming majority of customers who want the online DRM to be removed.