Hitler Finds Gets Told about SH5's DRM

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Westbroek

I love you guys.

(((Hug)))

The Moderators have a tuff job to start with.
And with tensions being so high?
Mistakes are bound to happen.
Just because a Guy is a Moderator don't make him perfect.
But I still stand by my post
that you should not have been attacked as you were.
Brig me if that's needed.
But I'll not retract my statement.
Nor will I stand down from the coercion the poster tried to impose.
He's got a Richard Cranium complex at times.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by robbo180265

As I said in a thread elsewhere - we're all a little jumpy at the moment, so don't worry too much matey.

Originally Posted by jerm138

+1 on that.

No worries, Webster.

Originally Posted by Westbroek

I love you guys.

Originally Posted by robbo180265

(((Hug)))

Yeah, let's all have a group hug. . Silence the negaholics!

[Rockin Robbins]

First, I wasn't attacking Webster. I was attacking the idea of silencing people making reasonable negative comments about SH5 on a fairly regular basis. I stated that it was because although most posters have been around for awhile and have read the negative opinions before, that is not who the negative posts are directed toward.

Silencing the negative posts about SH5, just about every one of them well deserved, on the grounds that it's been said before causes the negative posts to fall down the posts list until in a few days it's on page 3, buried by all the Pollyannas. (They too, are repeating themselves and don't seem too upset by that.) Then a new person considering purchasing the Titanic (SH5) comes on the board. "Look at all the positive comments! Subsim is highly thought of and obviously loves the game." Then he buys the game, based on this false picture of a total travesty posing as a submarine simulation.

Can you understand how cheated he will feel? Can you understand that he will put the blame on Subsim? Can you see how Subsim would completely deserve the blame? Why would Subsim want to participate in giving the finger to the entire crowd of submarine simulation fanatics?

Subsim has a responsibility to be straightforward. SH5 is a game with serious shortcomings in its playability. It is not a submarine simulation, it is a deeply flawed role-playing game--badly designed and executed even more poorly. The DRM removes your fair use right to sell, lend, give away or assign your copyrighted purchase, a unique violation of everyone's normal personal rights almost everywhere in the world. In some European countries that is illegal. The DRM leaves you at the mercy of Ubi's willingness to operate it's paltry three servers to serve the world, that alone demonstrating the depth of contempt they have for their customers.

Failure to keep that message up front and center to new arrivals at Subsim is a gross dereliction of duty. Making posts that codify the policy of silencing critics of the game serves to make Subsim responsible for a conscious policy of denying the public the information it needs to make the proper decision as to whether or not to purchase this game. I care about Subsim. That policy endangers Subsim's future existence. If people don't trust Subsim to tell the truth, then they won't be here.

Subsim may be a nice place for old-timers to chat about our games. But that isn't the most important reason for Subsim. The most important reason is to be a gateway for people new to naval simulation, to inform them accurately as to the playability of the games, and to help them get involved and keep them playing the good ones.

When we sacrifice the most important function for the relatively unimportant irritation of the old-timers reading an opinion more than once, we are being very foolish. Shame on us.

@RR
Sometimes I miss the private exchanges we had through E-Mail.
My address has not changed.
I'd be happy to get kicked in the face or whatever that way.

In other words........
Send a message to you know where.
I only bite now and then Mate.

[IanC]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

First, I wasn't attacking Webster. I was attacking the idea of silencing people making reasonable negative comments about SH5 on a fairly regular basis. I stated that it was because although most posters have been around for awhile and have read the negative opinions before, that is not who the negative posts are directed toward.

Silencing the negative posts about SH5, just about every one of them well deserved, on the grounds that it's been said before causes the negative posts to fall down the posts list until in a few days it's on page 3, buried by all the Pollyannas. (They too, are repeating themselves and don't seem too upset by that.) Then a new person considering purchasing the Titanic (SH5) comes on the board. "Look at all the positive comments! Subsim is highly thought of and obviously loves the game." Then he buys the game, based on this false picture of a total travesty posing as a submarine simulation.

Can you understand how cheated he will feel? Can you understand that he will put the blame on Subsim? Can you see how Subsim would completely deserve the blame? Why would Subsim want to participate in giving the finger to the entire crowd of submarine simulation fanatics?

Subsim has a responsibility to be straightforward. SH5 is a game with serious shortcomings in its playability. It is not a submarine simulation, it is a deeply flawed role-playing game--badly designed and executed even more poorly. The DRM removes your fair use right to sell, lend, give away or assign your copyrighted purchase, a unique violation of everyone's normal personal rights almost everywhere in the world. In some European countries that is illegal. The DRM leaves you at the mercy of Ubi's willingness to operate it's paltry three servers to serve the world, that alone demonstrating the depth of contempt they have for their customers.

Failure to keep that message up front and center to new arrivals at Subsim is a gross dereliction of duty. Making posts that codify the policy of silencing critics of the game serves to make Subsim responsible for a conscious policy of denying the public the information it needs to make the proper decision as to whether or not to purchase this game. I care about Subsim. That policy endangers Subsim's future existence. If people don't trust Subsim to tell the truth, then they won't be here.

Subsim may be a nice place for old-timers to chat about our games. But that isn't the most important reason for Subsim. The most important reason is to be a gateway for people new to naval simulation, to inform them accurately as to the playability of the games, and to help them get involved and keep them playing the good ones.

When we sacrifice the most important function for the relatively unimportant irritation of the old-timers reading an opinion more than once, we are being very foolish. Shame on us.

Very good points RR.

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Webster

by the logic of some, i should then be fine and none of you would object if i were to fill the sh3 forum with 150 threads about sh4 just because sh4 has subs in it too so its related to sh3 discussions or how about 150 threads about WOW because its related since its about war too?

Shall we start comparing cars (sh3) with motorbikes (sh4) or shall we start comparing cars (sh3) with todler tricycles (sh5)?

Dude, after all is just a game and this part of the forum this is SH5 context. Therefore vents/complaints/bugs discovery/frustrations by those service owners and potential service owners/workarrounds/drmXits have been in context of SH5.

btw this seem the only thread where complaints are collected, all others are created by SH5 service owners venting their frustrations and solutions so lets get some prespective shall we?


But above all lets have some happy days SIMing... less forum bashing and more action/diving or in my case truck driving!

My Triumph wouldn't start today.

Does that count?

[thyro]

Originally Posted by privateer

My Triumph wouldn't start today.

Does that count?

Have you switch on the DRM ignition? coz once on the DRM can be off and the engine will keep working till run out of gas!

Now that you mention it?
My internet connection was down!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by privateer

Now that you mention it?
My internet connection was down!

pls don't tell me that you have installed the DRM mod v1.0.14 into your Triumph. if was that version then is bugged with a flaw... apply the DRM mod fix and that would create a loopback allowing a bypass of the DRM mod core routines.

As I said earlier you only need for the ignition once the triumph is up and running you can switch off the DRM mod

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by thyro

pls don't tell me that you have installed the DRM mod v1.0.14 into your Triumph. if was that version then is bugged with a flaw... apply the DRM mod fix and that would create a loopback allowing a bypass of the DRM mod core routines.

As I said earlier you only need for the ignition once the triumph is up and running you can switch off the DRM mod

I installed a 'Hack' and got the Triumph running.

Strange thing is?

It now runs backwards!

You must see me riding down the road, backwards,
screaming my head off!

Did I install the 'Fix' Wrong?

[thyro]

Originally Posted by privateer

I installed a 'Hack' and got the Triumph running.

Strange thing is?

It now runs backwards!

You must see me riding down the road, backwards,
screaming my head off!

Did I install the 'Fix' Wrong?

Not sure mate

My triumph works fine even without gas (aka net connection)

If you follow to the letter the 5 steps that are in the readme you won't get into trouble. Ah! btw it is not a "hack" it is a "DRM mod fix".

[Pablo]

Well,

Youtube has pulled the video, so I guess that takes care of that:

This video contains content from Constantin Film, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.

Pablo