plane crash near Smolensk, Polish president on board

Onkel Neal · 04-10-10, 12:00 PM

Just a friendly reminder, let's stay on topic from here on, please.

Platapus · 04-10-10, 12:20 PM

De mortius nil nisi bonum dicendum est
Basic human dignity should move us at least honour the dead and show sympathy towards their families before engaging in petty squabbling about opinions about the character of the dead.

I did not know these people. But I know people who have died and people who have lost loved ones. I don't have to know these dead in order to empathize with the living about their loss.

Onkel Neal · 04-10-10, 12:34 PM

...on topic.

sonar732 · 04-10-10, 12:36 PM

Hopefully there won't be a power vacuum created and there will be a smooth transition. My condolences to the families and the country as a whole!

Storm87 · 04-10-10, 12:48 PM

Here You can find a full list of those who died in this disaster. This is a final list - 89 passengers and 7 crew members.

http://www.mmlodz.pl/8679/2010/4/10/...?category=news

And here, gallery with photos of most of them. In upper right corner you will find arrows to navigate. "Nastêpne" (next) and "Poprzednie" (back).

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/gid,12158338...a,galeria.html

Everything is in polish, but i think that words have not much importance here.

Sailor Steve · 04-10-10, 01:01 PM

A terrible tragedy.

Storm87, thanks for that link. It makes it more real and harder to ignore when you see the faces of the victims.

Sometimes it's too easy to say "So what? I didn't know them". I still don't know them, but at least now to me they were real people.

04-10-10, 12:00 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,386 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Just a friendly reminder, let's stay on topic from here on, please. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-10-10, 12:20 PM	#2
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,438 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	De mortius nil nisi bonum dicendum est Basic human dignity should move us at least honour the dead and show sympathy towards their families before engaging in petty squabbling about opinions about the character of the dead. I did not know these people. But I know people who have died and people who have lost loved ones. I don't have to know these dead in order to empathize with the living about their loss. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

04-10-10, 12:34 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,386 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	...on topic. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-10-10, 01:01 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	A terrible tragedy. Storm87, thanks for that link. It makes it more real and harder to ignore when you see the faces of the victims. Sometimes it's too easy to say "So what? I didn't know them". I still don't know them, but at least now to me they were real people. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-10-10, 12:36 PM	#4
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hopefully there won't be a power vacuum created and there will be a smooth transition. My condolences to the families and the country as a whole!

04-10-10, 12:48 PM	#5
Storm87 Mate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tarnów (Poland) Posts: 56 Downloads: 470 Uploads: 0	Here You can find a full list of those who died in this disaster. This is a final list - 89 passengers and 7 crew members. http://www.mmlodz.pl/8679/2010/4/10/...?category=news And here, gallery with photos of most of them. In upper right corner you will find arrows to navigate. "Nastêpne" (next) and "Poprzednie" (back). http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/gid,12158338...a,galeria.html Everything is in polish, but i think that words have not much importance here.