GWX Missions? Patrol area????? why?

[kryton]

While you do have some good points sergei

I still think I should get some reown for patroling the assigned area
though yes I do act on some of the radio msg's and go out of the patrol area
I still did my duty and should get rewarded even if it is just a little bit.

but go Rough after you've patrolled is always a good idea especially if you have a full bank of torps

[maillemaker]

You are correct, with GWX3 the renown awards for reaching your assigned grid and patrolling it for 24 hours have been removed from the game. I don't know the reason for this but obviously it was the decision of the GWX team to do it that way.

As I recall from reading the GWX manual, the reason why they removed the renown for hitting your patrol grid is because some of the new theater mods have no way to give renown for hitting those patrol grids (Black Sea? Can't remember).

So rather than have some theaters WITH renown for hitting your grid, and others without it, they just made them all without it.

I agree, I think this was a bad plan. I think you should get points for fulfilling your mission.

Steve

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kryton

While you do have some good points sergei

I still think I should get some reown for patroling the assigned area
though yes I do act on some of the radio msg's and go out of the patrol area
I still did my duty and should get rewarded even if it is just a little bit.

IIRC the stock game gave you 400 renown for reaching the assigned grid, and 200 for completing the patrol as ordered.

The Renown Replacement mod will replace the GWX cfg file with one that includes those values, which were changed to 0 by GWX.

FYI if you edit the file manually to put the 400 and 200 back in the relevant lines, don't bother changing the value for the line below them that looks like it might award renown for returning to base, the game will not award renown for that even if you put something other than 0 there. It's a stock bug that no one has found a fix for yet.

[sergei]

Originally Posted by kryton

I still think I should get some reown for patroling the assigned area though yes I do act on some of the radio msg's and go out of the patrol area I still did my duty and should get rewarded even if it is just a little bit.

That's fair enough Kryton.

As Frau Kaleun has pointed out, it is fairly easy to put it back in, just a quick edit of a cfg file.
Although the stock values of 400 and 200 do seem a tad high to me.

I'm thinking of putting the renown reward back into my own game when (if ) I get to '43 and beyond.
By this stage in the war just getting to a patrol area in one piece is an achievement.

Again Kryton - however you want to play it

[kryton]

Hi,

Yea I agree 400 is a bit to much... What would you set it to?

I'm thinking about 200 and 100 as I dont want to get to powerful too quickly.
Yea I've been there in 43 and I'm lucky just to get out of the pen.

Reown

Should be a reward for doing your job and allows for upgrades which should be slowly completed
over the years with promotions and the such

[sergei]

Originally Posted by kryton

Yea I agree 400 is a bit to much... What would you set it to?

I was thinking about setting it to 50 for reaching the area, and 100 for remaining on station.
But these are just some figures I pulled out of a hat.
Your figures as just as valid.

Whatever you reckon, I guess.
As long as it's lower than stock, we both agree that figure seems too high

[kryton]

I think your a lot closer than I am.... 50/100 should do well...


BTW not to get off topic but your merchant skin pack in your sig do these work with SH3??

[Sailor Steve]

I don't mind the renown system, as it is supposed to reflect your credibility with BdU and base commanders. No, no one had to 'buy' equipment, but when it was brand new and there was only one, it could go to the first boat in, or it could go to somebody's 'favorite son'.

I agree with GWX about not getting renown for just doing your job. Myself, I go to the patrol area for a week, and roll a die if I've had no luck. 1 - I pick a nearby grid and go there. 2-6 - I stay for another week, and roll again, this time 1-2 taking me elswhere. If I roll really badly and stay there for six weeks, too bad. Usually I find something no matter where I am.

[sergei]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

it could go to the first boat in, or it could go to somebody's 'favorite son'.

Yep, that's true. And the renown system works quite well to simulate this.
Plus, I really like a game mechanic (whatever the game) where you save up to get better equipment.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I don't mind the renown system, as it is supposed to reflect your credibility with BdU and base commanders. No, no one had to 'buy' equipment, but when it was brand new and there was only one, it could go to the first boat in, or it could go to somebody's 'favorite son'.

I agree with GWX about not getting renown for just doing your job. Myself, I go to the patrol area for a week, and roll a die if I've had no luck. 1 - I pick a nearby grid and go there. 2-6 - I stay for another week, and roll again, this time 1-2 taking me elswhere. If I roll really badly and stay there for six weeks, too bad. Usually I find something no matter where I am.

I really like your die rolling system Steve,it adds a random 'fate' element to your game,similar to those old fighting fantasy books (if you remember any of those?),where you rolled a die to decide the outcome then turned to the relevant page.
I think I may opt for this system myself any time I feel I cant decide on something...better to let the gods decide

psst...fighting fantasy books were BRILLIANT in their day!,and I still play them whenever I feel in a nostalgic mood

[sharkbit]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I agree with GWX about not getting renown for just doing your job. Myself, I go to the patrol area for a week, and roll a die if I've had no luck. 1 - I pick a nearby grid and go there. 2-6 - I stay for another week, and roll again, this time 1-2 taking me elswhere. If I roll really badly and stay there for six weeks, too bad. Usually I find something no matter where I am.

Nice idea Steve.

I think I may have to incorporate that.

[sergei]

No they're SH4 I'm afraid, made back when I was sailing in the PTO.

I'm back in the ATO now, and loving it

I did toy with the idea of doing a skinpack for SH3, but to be honest with you, after opening up a few files and looking at them, I realsed it would be difficult to do a better job than whoever did the GWX ship skins.

[kryton]

Originally Posted by sergei

No they're SH4 I'm afraid, made back when I was sailing in the PTO.

I'm back in the ATO now, and loving it

I did toy with the idea of doing a skinpack for SH3, but to be honest with you, after opening up a few files and looking at them, I realsed it would be difficult to do a better job than whoever did the GWX ship skins.

I have sh4 but I dont like the game play was disapointed a bit They should have kept the SH3 "look" and just mad the graphics better and added the americans

[Paul Riley]

Maybe renown should be scrapped altogether?.As someone pointed out in here earlier somewhere,the real commanders didnt get UBoats based on a score system,they were generally provided ANYWAY by their command,same with having devices like the schnorkel fitted,it was simply a life or death decision,not one based on a score.See what I mean here?.So,if you wanted/needed the XXI and you were in late 1944 for example just edit the game's renown until you have enough for it,you would have probably been given one anyway by that stage in the war,if one was available that is,which would probably not be the case
Above all,just enjoy the game anyway you see fit.

[flag4]

...i think a little ice cream for being a good Kaleu - and coming home, is worthy...