New START Treaty

[Jimbuna]

It's not as if Medvedev is even in charge over in Russia

[SteamWake]

Kumbya .. lets hold hands and skip through the green grass.

Kumbya .. lets hold hands and skip through the green grass.

Did you object to all the earlier versions of this treaty your government did?

It's not as if Medvedev is even in charge over in Russia

But apparently its not Obama in charg ein the US, he is just a puppet for an evil commymuslimatheist plot backed by a secret legion of nazi dentists.

[Catfish]

[Obama] "he is just a puppet for ..."

Now who IS he ?
A puppet, really ? For what i have read here, he must the incarnate devil himself. A little bit control on weapon and oil companies, a health care plane for "not well-off" people, an excuse to the first nations of the US - this man is the devil himself !
Or he is just hired by the Bush dynasty, to have an excuse for King Bush 3rd

Greetings,
Catfish

[Skybird]

reducing the number of warheads is nothing I have something to say against, both sides still are left with more warheads than enough. The US also plans to modernise existing systems, which effects the bombs stored in Europe, too.

The challenge of Iran and North Korea Obama has not answered by this.

To rule out atomic retaliation in case of attacks with biologic weapons, is questionable, imo, and not helpful. It can serve as an encouragement to strike with biologic weapons.

The challenge of Iran and North Korea Obama has not answered by this.

wow a bilateral treaty between two countries doesn't answer two other countries.

Nothing wrong with redoing START, nuclear waepons are tremendously expensive and by definition, a weapon of last resort and not to be used except under very specific situations.

America did not feel safe when it had over 30,000 deliverable warheads in its arsenal so it stands to reason that if no amount of nukes will provide the desired level of security, you might as well thin out the herd to the greatest extent practical.

That's what this version of START seems like to me, a sensible and entirely rational approach for managing weapons that may be considered essential but are entirely irrational and make no military sense.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Kumbya .. lets hold hands and skip through the green grass.

good one sir. That is the Liberal mindset, void of reality.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

good one sir. That is the Liberal mindset, void of reality.

This from the guy who said Reagan was the best President over the last 150 years...

And speaking of Reagan...did you know he also wanted to reduce the nuke stockpile by 1/3? The Daily Show had a segment on it!!! With Reagan in video footage SAYING it!!

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

This from the guy who said Reagan was the best President over the last 150 years...

And speaking of Reagan...did you know he also wanted to reduce the nuke stockpile by 1/3? The Daily Show had a segment on it!!! With Reagan in video footage SAYING it!!

The fact that you would use The Daily Show as a reference in a non cmedy related discussion is because Stewart while funny(usually) is an idiot and the show is not a real news show as many in my generation seem to think.Can't tell you how many times in college I heard some idiot say well on the daily show, I usually set them straight on it, I hurt a few feelings to say that least.

The Cold War was a different situation than now.There were two super powers each operating on mutually assured destruction and reducing the warheads were a way to try to calm down things, but those days are over.Russia is not a super power but has plenty of nukes so good to try and balance things in that sense.However, several other nations have them or are in process of getting them and pose or will pose a threat so we should not reduce our deployed nukes while rest of the world is working on having more and more.Islamic terrorists are not the only threat, the traditional threat of unfriendly nations is still real and will be even more so in coming years, so we should not reduce our warheads or stop developing them to just "maintain" them, or we will end up with outdated equipment etc.Reagan too wanted a world without nukes and said so, most of us do but Reagan lived in the real world and knew it would not happen because you can not uninvent something.Obama really thinks by reducing our abilities and readiness, the world will follow our lead, take our hands and go play in the grassy field to watch the rainbows come out, the naivete is just stunning.

Reagan was the greatest President of last century and would dare say in the top five in history thus far for sure.I do believe it is time to add him to Mount Rushmore.Reagan turned things around economically, lowered taxes, took steps that allowed us to win the cold war and cause the collapse of the plague known as communism, he deserves credit for that because without him we would prob still be dicking around with them.Reagan revolutionized American politics, had fans on both sides of the aisle thus "Reagan Democrats" and left office with a 64% approval rating.Reagan also appointed brillant pro constitution judges like Scalia to supreme court and federal courts, a legacy that stands today, thanksfully.Overall, great President and no others really measure up.

The fact that you would use The Daily Show as a reference in a non cmedy related discussion is

Actualy its spot on as the predictable kneejerk reaction of the wingnut fringe is hilarious.
Though it would have been funnier if the administrration had decided to not renew the START process when it lapsed, then the nuts would be complaining that the white house were throwing away Reagans legacy.

I usually set them straight on it

I hope you didn't set them straight in the same way you have been informing the forum about the secret army of nazi dentists that are going to take over America.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Actualy its spot on as the predictable kneejerk reaction of the wingnut fringe is hilarious.
Though it would have been funnier if the administrration had decided to not renew the START process when it lapsed, then the nuts would be complaining that the white house were throwing away Reagans legacy.


I hope you didn't set them straight in the same way you have been informing the forum about the secret army of nazi dentists that are going to take over America.

Pretty sure I never said anything about secret army of nazi dentists.I was simply bringing up his remarks during campaign and the possible connection to provision in the health control bill, based on obama's past and present associations and obvious ideology.I did say I could be wrong and hope I am, because it will be bad for us all.Call me what you want, but I think independtly and do not blindly follow obama as you seem to do.You once again gave the typical kneejerk moonbat reaction to anyone who dares to challenge barry and the dangerous path he has put us on.

I set them straight by informing them that the daily show is not real news, it is comedy/satire and not even fair in anyway because Stewart is a stupid liberal and anyone who gets their news from him without looking it up or watching real sources and takes him seriously is a f*cking moron.This was mostly freshman year but surprised me and angered me at same time how many took stweart serious.I really hope things turn around in my generations thinking or we are indeed screwed.