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Old 04-07-10, 04:06 PM   #1
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Cheers neal, i just Don't understand how to use the tool helper, why is 180 at the top? :-S
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Old 04-07-10, 04:24 PM   #2
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Cheers neal, i just Don't understand how to use the tool helper, why is 180 at the top? :-S
Did you see the link that was posted above? It's to my Map Tools tutorial that shows how it works.

Check out this image and notice how the 180 at the top tool is plotting a line to describe a true course:




If you start a line and drag it down you'll cross the 180 mark, meaning it's a line heading 180 degrees. If you start a line and drag it to the right it'll cross the 90 degree mark showing it's a easterly course. If you drag it straight up it'll cross the upside down 0, showing the course is 0 degrees.
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Old 04-07-10, 04:32 PM   #3
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Did you see the link that was posted above? It's to my Map Tools tutorial that shows how it works.

Check out this image and notice how the 180 at the top tool is plotting a line to describe a true course:




If you start a line and drag it down you'll cross the 180 mark, meaning it's a line heading 180 degrees. If you start a line and drag it to the right it'll cross the 90 degree mark showing it's a easterly course. If you drag it straight up it'll cross the upside down 0, showing the course is 0 degrees.
Cheers for the link kylania. i missed it as im viewing the site on my mobile. i'll have a look at the link. :-)
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Old 04-07-10, 06:55 PM   #4
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thats more or less the way i do it too, i look at the target, and with the ruler i take advantage of the ship's position an speed apearing on the mini-map when you hover the cursor over it, although i dont really want to do it that way. I hope they remove that with the patch, whats the point of having no contacts on the map when it shows up when you hover the cursor on the map.

I have the more realistic periscope mod which should help get the range without the stadimeter (which doesnt work) and i should be calculating its speed by marking its position twice and calculating distance travelled/time passed between 2 marks. its still difficult for me to do it fast enought when the ships are already close but thats what i intend on improving on my game.
Yeah, speed is a tough one. Imagine doing this in real life, while all the time you know there are a hundred eyes searching the waves for your scope. I try to take three marks and measure and do the math for speed, just to get in the ball park. As long as I can get within 1200m, being 80% accurate usually produces hits.

Not sure what you mean about "i take advantage of the ship's position an speed apearing on the mini-map when you hover the cursor over it, "

How does the ship's position appear on the tactical map with Map contacts OFF? And how does the stadimeter not work? I'm not seeing a major problem with it.



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I had an epphiany this morning driving into work. I looked in my rear view mirror and saw some jerk flying up behind me. I quickly estimated from sight alone how close he'd be to me before we entered into a tight curve in the road up ahead. Then I realized, hey!! If I could do this I bet it's the same thing that u-boat captains did as they closed in on a convoy. It doesn't matter if everything is perfect to the meter, just that you have a feel for what--at that point the jerk flew past me, cutting me off just before the curve, but it was still a cool realization.
Exactly! It's all about getting a feel for the situation through observation and not watching an arcade display on a real time gods-eye map.
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Old 04-07-10, 07:23 PM   #5
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in TAI if you hover the cursor over the targets position a little black box will appear telling you if its a merchant or a warship and its speed, cant remember if the heading also shows up, ill post a screenshot
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Old 04-07-10, 08:12 PM   #6
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ya Neal what he is speaking about is at 100% realism if you are DEAD on with your plots, if you put the mouse at the exact point the ship is at on the map a box pops up telling you the ship, ie. Merchant 6kts bearing 183, this works on EVERY ship i've encountered as long as your initial plot is DEAD on and by DEAD I mean your mark is LITERALLY ontop of the ship in question then when you put the mouse over it cheat sheet pops right up.. I have avoided this nasty little window by being very careful not to drag my mouse all the way to the end of my plots.... hence I have to guess range a little shorter while i'm writing it all up but I correct it right before firing.

Sorry for the horrible sentence structure and just mash of words.
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Old 04-07-10, 08:46 PM   #7
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I'll be, did not know that. Ok, that's a bug I do not like

I was going to remark, with the new cone that represents the direction you are looking, it is easier to naturally get a bearing on your target.
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