Do we really want to ruin this forum with constant DRM and SH5 trashing?

Bilge_Rat · 04-05-10, 05:37 AM

how original, yet another thread where posters state why they will not buy the game, as if the rest of us care.

TDK1044 · 04-05-10, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

how original, yet another thread where posters state why they will not buy the game, as if the rest of us care.

The point is that fewer people are actually buying this game...and some of those people are trying to take it back.

Ubisoft is finally getting what it deserves in my opinion. People are finally voting with their wallets. About time.

vonTorpitz · 04-05-10, 07:04 AM

Judging by the posts Ive read. I can tell feelings are running hot concerning the inadequacies of SH5. Most of all, it seems that Ubisofts DRM policy is the predominant gripe here. Given the amount of negative press this thing is getting its only a matter of course until Ubisoft pulls it. Incidentally,(and I am truly reluctant to post this in light of the anguish Ive read about) I have experienced zero problems logging on to SH5 through Ubisofts servers. Not once. Maybe Im lucky. To be clear though, I am not condoning the unfinished product SH5 or Ubisofts draconian marketing schemes either.
In any case, the thread was directed to those who have already bought the game and how we can make it better. If you like SH3 then play it. Im ready to move on. And I sincerely hope others who've bought the game are as well.
Either that or we commandeer a U -Boat, sail to Romania or whatever backwater Eastern European paradise this game was created in ........and nuke it.

Taurolas · 04-05-10, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vonTorpitz

Judging by the posts Ive read. I can tell feelings are running hot concerning the inadequacies of SH5. Most of all, it seems that Ubisofts DRM policy is the predominant gripe here. Given the amount of negative press this thing is getting its only a matter of course until Ubisoft pulls it. Incidentally,(and I am truly reluctant to post this in light of the anguish Ive read about) I have experienced zero problems logging on to SH5 through Ubisofts servers. Not once. Maybe Im lucky. To be clear though, I am not condoning the unfinished product SH5 or Ubisofts draconian marketing schemes either.
In any case, the thread was directed to those who have already bought the game and how we can make it better. If you like SH3 then play it. Im ready to move on. And I sincerely hope others who've bought the game are as well.
Either that or we commandeer a U -Boat, sail to Romania or whatever backwater Eastern European paradise this game was created in ........and nuke it.

Lucky for you vonTorpitz, i bought the game, it patched itself and then it wouldnt load and wont go past the updating loader pop up window, so it would seem i purchased a game i cannot play... DRM strikes again!

looks like i'm going back to SH4

Sonarman · 04-05-10, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vonTorpitz

Either that or we commandeer a U -Boat, sail to Romania or whatever backwater Eastern European paradise this game was created in ........and nuke it.

I suspect as many here do that the torpedoes/nukes should be aimed instead at Ubisoft HQ in Paris. The Romanian dev team have their hearts in the right place regading the series and have simply not been given enough time/money to complete the job as intended by the bean counters and shareholder servicers above.

When push come to shove and someone has to explain why the game failed to HQ I hope someone at Ubi Romania will stand up for the future of the series and tell HQ they didn't give them enough time or money on this game, that they barely marketed it at all, made it the poster boy for the most hated computer "innovation" of recent times (DRM) and saddled it with a completely sub-standard & confusing manual. They don't listen to their customers hopefully Ubisoft HQ will listen to their staff. Or is it only shareholders that are their concern, If so then that's very bad business indeed.

HundertzehnGustav · 04-05-10, 08:22 AM

LOLz

1 positive post

spawning a barricade of Artillery dropping down.

where are the other SHV lovers?

Bilge_Rat · 04-05-10, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

where are the other SHV lovers?

Too busy playing the game to keep dealing with this nonsense...

TDK1044 · 04-05-10, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Too busy playing the game to keep dealing with this nonsense...

Yes. Both of them.

Sailor Steve · 04-05-10, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Too busy playing the game to keep dealing with this nonsense...

Excellent lunge!

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

Yes. Both of them.

Excellent riposte!

There are a bunch of people enjoying the game, or trying to.

There are a bunch of people who played it, hated it, and said they'd be back when it was working better.

There are a bunch of people who will see if patches and fixes make it better, and then will buy it.

And there are a bunch of people who refuse to buy it while it's a force-fed online game.

Everybody has a different take, and everybody is more than willing to express there opinions. Everybody also seems to willing to take cheap shots at anybody who disagrees with them.

This is a thread asking players to give SH5 a chance. I'm more than willing to do that, once they'll let me play it.

It doesn't need to be a shooting war.

Faamecanic · 04-05-10, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

I suspect as many here do that the tops should be aimed instead at Ubisoft HQ in Paris. The Romanian dev team have their hearts in the right place regading the series and have simply not been given enough time/money to complete the job as intended by the bean counters and shareholder servicers above.

When push come to shove and someone has to explain why the game failed to HQ I hope someone at Ubi Romania will stand up for the future of the series and tell HQ they didn't give them enough time or money on this game, that they barely marketed it at all, made it the poster boy for the most hated computer "innovation" of recent times (DRM) and saddled it with a completely sub-standard & confusing manual. Since they don't listen to their customers hopefully Ubisoft HQ will listen to their staff. Or is it only shareholders that are their concern?

But I will add patience has worn thin with a lot of the VETERAN SH series users due to the fact A LOT of bugs that we saw in SH 3 have carried over to SH4 then to SH 5.

I understand the DEVS wanting to have have "Bigger and Better"...heck we all do. But to leave in OBVIOUS bugs from 2 iterations past, and introduce NEW OBVIOUS bugs (friendly ships moving in reverse, blocking your path) is unexcusable. All the eye candy and new functions (that are only half finished) will NEVER make up for such an incomplete release.

Better to work 99% of the bugs out of SH 4, THEN update the graphics (time permitted) and introduce a NEW campaign system (time permitted) then to release such an incomplete product like SH 5.

STEED · 04-05-10, 08:31 AM

For the record, I'm not buying SH5 as I already got a U-Boat game that of SH3 and the find body of the modeling community here bought us GWX which is a hit with me, so I do not want two U-Boat games. Yes SH5 has better graphics so what, it was bound too. I was hoping to see a surface big fleet action but that was not the case, Ubi has only done what comes naturally, SH3 was a hit so they cashed in on it to bring us SH4 & SH5, thats business for you.

So to sum up for me, I not for buying it, as already stated, and I'm not knocking it as I have no right too, as I've not bought it.

Darkseed · 04-05-10, 08:55 AM

My biggest gripe with the game and the reason I won't buy it is not all the bugs and barely beta-state of the game, not even the DRM (though that is a big part) but the fact that the game is not so much a sim than a Quake at sea. They dumbed it down a huge amount and for what? No amount of dumbing down will get the Halo-kids to buy it and will only serve to alienate all the true fans of the genre. Way to shoot yourselves and your fans in the foot, Ubi. I hope you go to hell.

Nokia · 04-05-10, 09:13 AM

The half-finished state the game is in I could forgive but he DRM is a no no.
For me the problem is the DRM. I'm against this kind of DMR in general, not just in SH5 because in the end it's only going to hurt those who have bought the game. They say it's to prevent piracy but it won't. Just about every game has been cracked and many on the day they are released. So in the end the paying customer will have to put up with loosing connection etc. whilst those who pirated the game don't have to be connected to the ubi servers and can play the game when they please. So I ain't buying it before the DRM is removed. Like a vice man once said: "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."

04-05-10, 05:37 AM	#1
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	how original, yet another thread where posters state why they will not buy the game, as if the rest of us care. __________________

04-05-10, 07:04 AM	#3
vonTorpitz Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: an island in the Pacific Posts: 42 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Judging by the posts Ive read. I can tell feelings are running hot concerning the inadequacies of SH5. Most of all, it seems that Ubisofts DRM policy is the predominant gripe here. Given the amount of negative press this thing is getting its only a matter of course until Ubisoft pulls it. Incidentally,(and I am truly reluctant to post this in light of the anguish Ive read about) I have experienced zero problems logging on to SH5 through Ubisofts servers. Not once. Maybe Im lucky. To be clear though, I am not condoning the unfinished product SH5 or Ubisofts draconian marketing schemes either. In any case, the thread was directed to those who have already bought the game and how we can make it better. If you like SH3 then play it. Im ready to move on. And I sincerely hope others who've bought the game are as well. Either that or we commandeer a U -Boat, sail to Romania or whatever backwater Eastern European paradise this game was created in ........and nuke it. __________________ God damn them all. I was told, we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier. The last of Barrett's privateers.

04-05-10, 08:22 AM	#6
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	LOLz 1 positive post spawning a barricade of Artillery dropping down. where are the other SHV lovers? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

04-05-10, 08:31 AM	#11
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	For the record, I'm not buying SH5 as I already got a U-Boat game that of SH3 and the find body of the modeling community here bought us GWX which is a hit with me, so I do not want two U-Boat games. Yes SH5 has better graphics so what, it was bound too. I was hoping to see a surface big fleet action but that was not the case, Ubi has only done what comes naturally, SH3 was a hit so they cashed in on it to bring us SH4 & SH5, thats business for you. So to sum up for me, I not for buying it, as already stated, and I'm not knocking it as I have no right too, as I've not bought it. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-05-10, 09:13 AM	#13
Nokia Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suomi Finland Posts: 572 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	The half-finished state the game is in I could forgive but he DRM is a no no. For me the problem is the DRM. I'm against this kind of DMR in general, not just in SH5 because in the end it's only going to hurt those who have bought the game. They say it's to prevent piracy but it won't. Just about every game has been cracked and many on the day they are released. So in the end the paying customer will have to put up with loosing connection etc. whilst those who pirated the game don't have to be connected to the ubi servers and can play the game when they please. So I ain't buying it before the DRM is removed. Like a vice man once said: "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." __________________

04-05-10, 08:55 AM	#12
Darkseed A-ganger Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 75 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	My biggest gripe with the game and the reason I won't buy it is not all the bugs and barely beta-state of the game, not even the DRM (though that is a big part) but the fact that the game is not so much a sim than a Quake at sea. They dumbed it down a huge amount and for what? No amount of dumbing down will get the Halo-kids to buy it and will only serve to alienate all the true fans of the genre. Way to shoot yourselves and your fans in the foot, Ubi. I hope you go to hell.