[REL] Optic update for DarkWraith's New UIs - Page 4

emtguf · 03-29-10, 05:45 PM

Added aspect ratio patch for 16:9

Frederf · 03-29-10, 06:46 PM

The same document also mentions that periscopes varied quite a lot over the course of the war. It would be nifty to use the renown/upgrade system to be able to pick a bi-ocular periscope for more light gathering but losing the stadimeter.

emtguf · 03-29-10, 06:48 PM

yeah it would be great. not sure how all that is setup in the game though. Could do it by releasing different file but nothing using renown.
Now if someone figures it out I would be all over modding some differing optics for them

mobucks · 03-30-10, 08:03 AM

thanks this works nice

emtguf · 03-30-10, 04:35 PM

At this point I feel the mod is pretty complete. Plan on updating again with a better UZO but beyond that not sure where to take it.

Any opinions on the matter? Things you would like to see?

7thSeal · 03-30-10, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emtguf

Any opinions on the matter? Things you would like to see?

I guess the only thing left that I could think of is having the range lines green during night. I know you've already looked for a solution but just hopeful that someday it well come.

I'm very much enjoying it and salute you for all the hard work you've put into this.

Redlance88 · 03-31-10, 04:07 PM

in regards to the comments about a single vertical line uzo, my guess is that being as the bridge mounted optics are part of a system for bearing and the like and that I think the real thing didn't move vertically any other lines would be mostly useless. I may be totally off the mark on that but that is my guess as to why the uzo may have had less in terms of marks and cross hairs .

Arclight · 03-31-10, 06:41 PM

Later war UZO did have a bit of a reticle, but it wasn't much.

Quote:

A graticule is provided in the right limb. It consists of a vertical line which gradually thickens from the centre to the outside of the field.

http://uboatarchive.net/U-156BlakeleyReport.htm

The reason for little to no marks is given in Hitman's doc; the attacks on the surface being conducted with little to no parallax, as to minimize visible profile.

Getting the lines green in darkness, I think, requires it to be hardcoded, like the scales in stock (they aren't part of the menu page and you can't move or change them).

Using different masks might be possible through scripting, changing resourcess used on the fly at specific times or under specific circumstances.

emtguf · 04-01-10, 10:36 AM

Yeah I believe scripting is the only option for the green lines.
Of course they probably wouldn't "glow" like the current green lines.
Still wondering why those arent a part of the menu system.....

04-04-10, 02:23 PM

Can you calculate range with these scopes? If so how?

Is it the same as arclights? i.e

OBS

@1.5 Mast Height x 100/Bars= Range
@6 ast Height x 400/Bars= Range

Attack Scope

@1.5 Mast Height x 50/Bars= Range
@6 ast Height x 200/Bars= Range

???

emtguf · 04-04-10, 09:02 PM

yes exactly the same.

I find the easiest however is to use the actual marks counted and multiply by 100 instead of 1000.

Danevang · 04-05-10, 04:14 AM

Great mod, it really adds a more realistic feeling!

I was wondering, should there be a patch for 16:10 screens too, or is that fine as it is?

keith_uk · 04-05-10, 09:50 AM

Just one or two things i don't understand...

I have a wide screen monitor, does this mean i need the 16:9 patch?

Do i have to put the patch in a folder before adding it to the mods folder, as it won't show up in JSGME as it is when its downloaded.

I see the free cam tweak 1.1 is included in this mod. Does this mean i have to, or can remove my free cam tweak mod before i enable this mod?

And last question, the free cam tweak mod i have been using is the narrow view version. Which version is the one in this mod, or does that depend on the patch?

Thanks,

Keith.

emtguf · 04-05-10, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keith_uk

Just one or two things i don't understand...

I have a wide screen monitor, does this mean i need the 16:9 patch?

Do i have to put the patch in a folder before adding it to the mods folder, as it won't show up in JSGME as it is when its downloaded.

I see the free cam tweak 1.1 is included in this mod. Does this mean i have to, or can remove my free cam tweak mod before i enable this mod?

And last question, the free cam tweak mod i have been using is the narrow view version. Which version is the one in this mod, or does that depend on the patch?

Thanks,

Keith.

Ok lets see...

1) Doesnt mean you use 16:9 look at the resolution you have set in game it should tell you the aspect ration on the side in () i.e. 1024 x 768 (4:3)

2) The patch is applied after you install the base mod. I believe the readme state the install instructions.

3) Also included in the read me. You do not use free cam tweak anymore as it is part of the mod. so uninstall it.

4) I am not using the narrow view it is the other one. I would have to make a patch for the narrow view one.

emtguf · 04-05-10, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danevang

Great mod, it really adds a more realistic feeling!

I was wondering, should there be a patch for 16:10 screens too, or is that fine as it is?

I can look at that later. I believe it works with 16:10 without a mod but will check later to be sure.

03-30-10, 08:03 AM	#49
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	thanks this works nice Last edited by mobucks; 03-30-10 at 08:23 AM.

03-31-10, 04:07 PM	#52
Redlance88 Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 44 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	a semi educated guess? in regards to the comments about a single vertical line uzo, my guess is that being as the bridge mounted optics are part of a system for bearing and the like and that I think the real thing didn't move vertically any other lines would be mostly useless. I may be totally off the mark on that but that is my guess as to why the uzo may have had less in terms of marks and cross hairs .

04-05-10, 04:14 AM	#57
Danevang Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 109 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Great mod, it really adds a more realistic feeling! I was wondering, should there be a patch for 16:10 screens too, or is that fine as it is? __________________

04-05-10, 09:50 AM	#58
keith_uk Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 114 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Just one or two things i don't understand... I have a wide screen monitor, does this mean i need the 16:9 patch? Do i have to put the patch in a folder before adding it to the mods folder, as it won't show up in JSGME as it is when its downloaded. I see the free cam tweak 1.1 is included in this mod. Does this mean i have to, or can remove my free cam tweak mod before i enable this mod? And last question, the free cam tweak mod i have been using is the narrow view version. Which version is the one in this mod, or does that depend on the patch? Thanks, Keith. __________________ i7-3930k CPU 16GB RAM GeForce GTX 670 Samsung SSD 830 Series Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

03-29-10, 05:45 PM	#46
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Added aspect ratio patch for 16:9

03-29-10, 06:46 PM	#47
Frederf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 665 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 1	The same document also mentions that periscopes varied quite a lot over the course of the war. It would be nifty to use the renown/upgrade system to be able to pick a bi-ocular periscope for more light gathering but losing the stadimeter.

03-29-10, 06:48 PM	#48
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	yeah it would be great. not sure how all that is setup in the game though. Could do it by releasing different file but nothing using renown. Now if someone figures it out I would be all over modding some differing optics for them

03-30-10, 04:35 PM	#50
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	At this point I feel the mod is pretty complete. Plan on updating again with a better UZO but beyond that not sure where to take it. Any opinions on the matter? Things you would like to see?

04-01-10, 10:36 AM	#54
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Yeah I believe scripting is the only option for the green lines. Of course they probably wouldn't "glow" like the current green lines. Still wondering why those arent a part of the menu system.....

04-04-10, 02:23 PM	#55
funkster319 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Can you calculate range with these scopes? If so how? Is it the same as arclights? i.e OBS @1.5 Mast Height x 100/Bars= Range @6 ast Height x 400/Bars= Range Attack Scope @1.5 Mast Height x 50/Bars= Range @6 ast Height x 200/Bars= Range ???

04-04-10, 09:02 PM	#56
emtguf Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	yes exactly the same. I find the easiest however is to use the actual marks counted and multiply by 100 instead of 1000.