Silent hunter 5 is terrible! (merged)

[Ark]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Maybe you need to try Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, or brother called Assasins Creed 2 ...etc.

This is year 2010 and graphics is average for a PC title.

Of course, if you compare it with poor old SH3 it is "great".

Clouds, sun, torp. explosion&splash, faces, ...it is not a " PC premier league "...

The Year is 2010.........and you mention Mass Effect 2? You can't even use FSAA in that game. If anything spits in the face of modern day PC capabilities it's not being able to enable FSAA. BFBC 2 is good (my favorite FPS) but needs improvements graphically, and I haven't played Assassin's Creed 2.

Regarding the year, what exactly does 2010 have to do with it? Feel free to name another simulator that looks better than SH5.
FS9? Nope.
FXS? Nope.
Dangerous Waters? Nope.
SB Pro PE? Nope.
Silent Hunter 3/4? Nope.
Lomac? Nope.
FC2? Nope.
DCS : BS? Nope.
Ship Simulator? Nope.
Knights of the Sea? Nope.
IL-2? Nope.
Wings of Prey? Maybe...but not up close. So, "nope" there as well.
WWII Online? Nope.
RoF? Nope.

If you think the games you mention above look better than SH5, than that is your opinion...it certainly isn't mine. The only thing I would really change graphically are the explosions, and I would put those back to how they were in SH3/SH4.

SH5 has great graphics if you have the hardware to run it. Anybody who says the graphics are bad either: A) Have lower-end hardware or B) Have unrealistic expectations.

Lastly, if this game is the worst you have ever played......you have not played many games. lol

SH5 does need a lot of fixes, but a graphical failure it is not.

[drtechno]

Originally Posted by Ark

The Year is 2010.........and you mention Mass Effect 2? You can't even use FSAA in that game. If anything spits in the face of modern day PC capabilities it's not being able to enable FSAA. BFBC 2 is good (my favorite FPS) but needs improvements graphically, and I haven't played Assassin's Creed 2.

Regarding the year, what exactly does 2010 have to do with it? Feel free to name another simulator that looks better than SH5.

SH5 does need a lot of fixes, but a graphical failure it is not.

Picking upon a near non-existant genre of flight sims, naval sims?
How about pretty much any car sim. released in the last 2 years.
Dirt 2, Yep
NFS, Yep
F1 2010, Yep
Burnout Paradise, Yep

[Ark]

Originally Posted by drtechno

Picking upon a near non-existant genre of flight sims, naval sims?
How about pretty much any car sim. released in the last 2 years.
Dirt 2, Yep
NFS, Yep
F1 2010, Yep
Burnout Paradise, Yep

To quote one of my favorite tennis players, "You can't be serious."

You think it is wrong for me to compare SH5 (A SUB SIM) to flight sims and....get ready for it...NAVAL SIMS? I'm sorry, I was under the impression that SH5 was a Naval Sim. What was I thinking comparing a product to other related suject matter.

Let's go through your list, and add other car sims as well (since you opened that can o' worms, lol):

Dirt 2: Off road rally/racing. Takes place on small maps (comparatively speaking), and has nowhere near the amount of units, land mass, etc..as SH5. It also has overdone bloom/HDR. No thanks.

NFS: Nope, not in my opinion. It's also an arcadey type game.

F1 2010: Not out yet. All people have really seen are videos and interviews here and there. Same other issues as Dirt 2 above. Physics are also suspect at this point taking into account the team making it.

Burnout Paradise: Nope, not in my opinion. I honestly don't think it looks that good at all. It's also not even a simulator. *See NFS comment above*

iRacing: Nope.

GTR 2: Nope.

GTR Evolution: Nope.

RFactor: Nope.


Lets go into other simulators:

Railworks: Nope.

RailSim: Nope.

Trainz 2010 EE: Nope.

MSTS (with mods): Nope.

Anything else I am missing on the PC? lol

[Adriatico]

Originally Posted by Ark

The Year is 2010.........and you mention Mass Effect 2? You can't even use FSAA in that game. If anything spits in the face of modern day PC capabilities it's not being able to enable FSAA. BFBC 2 is good (my favorite FPS) but needs improvements graphically, and I haven't played Assassin's Creed 2.

Regarding the year, what exactly does 2010 have to do with it? Feel free to name another simulator that looks better than SH5.
FS9? Nope.
FXS? Nope.
Dangerous Waters? Nope.
SB Pro PE? Nope.
Silent Hunter 3/4? Nope.
Lomac? Nope.
FC2? Nope.
DCS : BS? Nope.
Ship Simulator? Nope.
Knights of the Sea? Nope.
IL-2? Nope.
Wings of Prey? Maybe...but not up close. So, "nope" there as well.
WWII Online? Nope.
RoF? Nope.

If you think the games you mention above look better than SH5, than that is your opinion...it certainly isn't mine. The only thing I would really change graphically are the explosions, and I would put those back to how they were in SH3/SH4.

SH5 has great graphics if you have the hardware to run it. Anybody who says the graphics are bad either: A) Have lower-end hardware or B) Have unrealistic expectations.

Lastly, if this game is the worst you have ever played......you have not played many games. lol

SH5 does need a lot of fixes, but a graphical failure it is not.

FSX, FC2 and even moded Il-2 1946 have better graphics.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post2984306

Clouds are 3D but look artificial. Moded ones look better.
Coast of Portugal (Giblartar mission) looks like Hungarian river bank .
...
Sea surface is great looking but... it must be that way. Sea surface is the same for all the parts of world... contrary to landscapes in these flight sims.

Explosions - no further coments...

I would say just average graphics all togather... except sea surface (but not under surface)

(I had occassion to watch the game... not only screens.)

Originally Posted by Adriatico

FSX, FC2 and even moded Il-2 1946 have better graphics.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post2984306

Clouds are 3D but look artificial. Moded ones look better.
Coast of Portugal (Giblartar mission) looks like Hungarian river bank .
...
Sea surface is great looking but... it must be that way. Sea surface is the same for all the parts of world... contrary to landscapes in these flight sims.

Explosions - no further coments...

I would say just average graphics all togather... except sea surface (but not under surface)

(I had occassion to watch the game... not only screens.)

Well I will say that Wings of prey has one of the best graphics of any flight sim imho, but SH5's graphics are very good too, far better than the default FSX and IL-2 you talk of, I have them all, so I know

here are some of my screens of WoP http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/s..._2009/SH5/WoP/
here are some of my screens of SH5 http://s564.photobucket.com/albums/s...onV6_2009/SH5/


both look stuning imho and better than the default sims you mentioned but then I guess, "Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder" lol, and it wolud be a boaring world, if we ALL liked them same thing, yes?
Simon

[Ark]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

FSX, FC2 and even moded Il-2 1946 have better graphics.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post2984306

Clouds are 3D but look artificial. Moded ones look better.
Coast of Portugal (Giblartar mission) looks like Hungarian river bank .
...
Sea surface is great looking but... it must be that way. Sea surface is the same for all the parts of world... contrary to landscapes in these flight sims.

Explosions - no further coments...

I would say just average graphics all togather... except sea surface (but not under surface)

(I had occassion to watch the game... not only screens.)

If you don't mind me asking, what are your system specs, because I run all those games you mention at max graphics at 256ox1600 and none of them look as good as SH5. Well, it really depends on the value you put in each graphics category. Lomac/FC/FC2/DCS:BS all have funky looking dusk/night colors (that pinkish/orangish sky color kills me. lol


WoP, mentioned above, looks fantastic, however, zoom in close and the aircraft are not that high poly at all. The terrain/sky look georgous though.

FSX, even with the tons of payware add-ons I have, does not look as good, nor does it run as well, as SH5. FSX is fine for GA flight, but even then the terrain, cities, and pallete looks "off" to me. FSX does look good, don't get me wrong, but it also looks sort of cartoony...I am guessing from the color palette they use. FSX with REX/GEX/UTX/FS Genesis/etc looks really good, but something about it bothers me. I just can't put my finger on it.

I think Schmall said it best with, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." I still know people who think RFactor looks "the best" of any driving simulator.

[Adriatico]

SH5 was not on my rig... and I play GTX275 / 1680x1024 (2-4xAA) most of games.

But let us not steel the thread anyway...

[Fozzy22]

Oh dear, SH5 is now £12.98 on Amazon.co.uk, although i'm not suprised with all the negative reviews on it's page. The game really is shocking.

[Adriatico]

Originally Posted by Fozzy22

Oh dear, SH5 is now £12.98 on Amazon.co.uk, although i'm not suprised with all the negative reviews on it's page. The game really is shocking.

...and they steel keep their natural buyers away - with DRM

They wait for price $9.99 to start understanding that both wide community and pirates don't care anymore about this title...


Ashes to ashes, dust to dust... once upon a time, a game called SH existed in PC world...

Originally Posted by Fozzy22

The game really is shocking.

whats with the stupid "smilie"? you seem glad that SH5 didn't turn out to be a popular as SH3 at first release? seems a stupid reply
the same reply with a sad smilie, would sum up what most people feel about SH5, sad thats its not as good as first thought due to bugs?

To me though, they released it to soon, should have released it in another six months, after loads more beta testing? but that seems the way of most PC games these days ?

other than that, it has great promise, infact it already improved a lot with mods, and more patches to come

UBISOFT, PLEASE REMOVE THE DRM fed up of the game stopping ever time I lose my crap ADSL phone line connection