Ubi stop's pirate's

TieJustice · 03-29-10, 05:03 AM

Well UBI went all out to stop pirating of there games and they did it WELL DONE UBI

the only problem was that they had so many bad reviews from subsim Amazon US & UK cnet and on and on, that not even the pirate's what it

. well done UBI

ps on another note SH5 sales have dropped to a all time low of 1 dvd sold in a week and for every one out there that paid 29.00 + P&P now 12.00 FREE P&P

Zedi · 03-29-10, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TieJustice

Well UBI went all out to stop pirating of there games and they did it WELL DONE UBI
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The only difference on pirated version is that you cant' advance in campaigns, all the rest works fine. So:

We actually were robbed by Ubi by paying for a full developed game and getting an alpha version. If somebody will go for a lawsuit against Ubi, I sign up asap.

russ555 · 03-29-10, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

The only difference on pirated version is that you cant' advance in campaigns, all the rest works fine. So:

>>>snip<<<

We actually were robbed by Ubi by paying for a full developed game and getting an alpha version. If somebody will go for a lawsuit against Ubi, I sign up asap.

The Enigma · 03-29-10, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

The only difference on pirated version is that you cant' advance in campaigns, all the rest works fine.

And that has been dealt with by modding files.
So what did someone say: UBI stopped the pirates?

Dowly · 03-29-10, 06:39 AM

AC2 and SH5 were pirated roughly at the same time. SH5 didn't work at first, AC2 did (despite Ubi saying it didn't). SH5 copied the method used to crack AC2 and bang, both games cracked. Ubi didn't even slow them down.

BigBANGtheory · 03-29-10, 06:57 AM

What they have achieved is killing the 2nd hand market for these titles.

I'm not saying this is good or bad, its just an observation...

Letum · 03-29-10, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnum

The only difference on pirated version is that you cant' advance in campaigns, all the rest works fine.

Apparently you can even do that with a little file editing.

Nordmann · 03-29-10, 07:11 AM

Pirates will not be stopped, no matter what kind of fancy software or account authentication system you use. They always find a way, regardless of the attempts made by the industry to stop them.

Games companies are looking at all of this the wrong way. Piracy is not decreasing sales, because anyone downloading software illegally would not have bought the game in the first place, save for perhaps a few. Piracy is not responsible for the decline in sales revenue, pumping out shallow game after shallow game will do this readily enough, without any help from illegal copies.

Ubi's DRM solution has done only one thing, and that is alienate the very people putting money in their bank accounts. Not exactly a bright business decision. Have they stopped the pirates? It seems unlikely.

BamaFan67 · 03-29-10, 07:15 AM

First post for SH5....long time player..SH3, SH4 w/UBM and now SH5.
To put a damper on your "pirates cant continue with the missions" thing, my coughcousincough pirated the game after hearing me complain that this is nothing like the other releases, more arcade like and no thinking allowed. Well, last night he called and said he just started Happy times and the only complaints he has is that every time he finishes a mission, he has to save in port, edit the campaign file and reload. Says its a pain, but no DRM.
I own AC2, and has of yet, no crack for it that actually works.

EDIT: Game companies blame pirates on decreasing sales. They claim its only the PC side, so they just concentrate on the consoles. If you ever look at the torrent sites, XBox games are pirated just has much as PC games.....but no mention of that in any articles.

goldorak · 03-29-10, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBANGtheory

What they have achieved is killing the 2nd hand market for these titles.

I'm not saying this is good or bad, its just an observation...

The irony is that 2nd hand game market for pc games has always been an afterthought. Consoles are where 2nd game market is flourishing and always has. And yet they get to be treated like Kings and we like scum.

cothyso · 03-29-10, 08:11 AM

yes, because they are paying MORE for their dumbed versions of games than you pay for your PC better version of the same game.so, for them, we actually ARE scum.

usually, a console game is at least 10 euro/pounds more than the same PC version.

that's the sad reality.

another part of it is that console games are even easier to be pirated than the PC versions, you don't have to know anything to do it, just have a friend to know someone to mod your console and that's it.

all the "console games are not pirated or at least harder to be pirated than PC games" it's just dust in your eyes, covering the fact that they are easier to develop, get more money from them and have better control over the customers.

that's all..

Zedi · 03-29-10, 08:14 AM

OnLive will solve the piracy forever.

But until that, if there is a law against piracy, how come is no law against thief's, like Ubi? How come we can't sue these companies and keep allowing things like this to happen. What Ubi did with SH5 can be just the first step on a new trend.. dropping unfinished products and services at full price on markets, only make sure what is wrote on the box will be there so nobody can sue you. Way to go.

Hitman · 03-29-10, 08:24 AM

Actually, as I found out about the draconian DRM I was furious and stated that I would not get SH5 because of it, something I have sticked to.

However, as time goes by and I read more and more about the game, and watch what is going on, I am right now decided not to buy it because of the disastrous bugs and unfinished status it has, DRM aside. I don't understand why UBI starts by asking the Devs to "think big" with something innovative and then cuts their development time ridiculously. Each itineration of the series has had "in theory" vast improvements over the previous one, but most of them have been cut short by lack of developing time.

It amazes me that there are not many more people getting back to SH4. A good modded SH4 can stand very well (if not surpass) against the current poor SH5, and is also bulletproof. SH5 might not ever get to be that, even after 4 patches *if they are authorized by UBI* -which I also doubt.

thyro · 03-29-10, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

It amazes me that there are not many more people getting back to SH4. A good modded SH4 can stand very well (if not surpass)

And who said that games and all modders left SH4 to jump into the SH5 black hole?

Sh4 graphically is supperb
there is SH4's mod on Atlantic needing just a bit more features
Running through rooms? Easy just 3D and increase the command room and divide it in different secions.

So what SH5 has too offer if SH4 gets fully moded (like it happen on SH3)? Just pain of DRM until the day that UBI decides drop the server support on SH5.

SteamWake · 03-29-10, 08:45 AM

Obvious troll is obvious.

03-29-10, 05:03 AM	#1
TieJustice Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Ubi stop's pirate's Well UBI went all out to stop pirating of there games and they did it WELL DONE UBI the only problem was that they had so many bad reviews from subsim Amazon US & UK cnet and on and on, that not even the pirate's what it . well done UBI ps on another note SH5 sales have dropped to a all time low of 1 dvd sold in a week and for every one out there that paid 29.00 + P&P now 12.00 FREE P&P

03-29-10, 07:11 AM	#8
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Pirates will not be stopped, no matter what kind of fancy software or account authentication system you use. They always find a way, regardless of the attempts made by the industry to stop them. Games companies are looking at all of this the wrong way. Piracy is not decreasing sales, because anyone downloading software illegally would not have bought the game in the first place, save for perhaps a few. Piracy is not responsible for the decline in sales revenue, pumping out shallow game after shallow game will do this readily enough, without any help from illegal copies. Ubi's DRM solution has done only one thing, and that is alienate the very people putting money in their bank accounts. Not exactly a bright business decision. Have they stopped the pirates? It seems unlikely. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

03-29-10, 08:24 AM	#13
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Actually, as I found out about the draconian DRM I was furious and stated that I would not get SH5 because of it, something I have sticked to. However, as time goes by and I read more and more about the game, and watch what is going on, I am right now decided not to buy it because of the disastrous bugs and unfinished status it has, DRM aside. I don't understand why UBI starts by asking the Devs to "think big" with something innovative and then cuts their development time ridiculously. Each itineration of the series has had "in theory" vast improvements over the previous one, but most of them have been cut short by lack of developing time. It amazes me that there are not many more people getting back to SH4. A good modded SH4 can stand very well (if not surpass) against the current poor SH5, and is also bulletproof. SH5 might not ever get to be that, even after 4 patches if they are authorized by UBI -which I also doubt. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-29-10, 08:45 AM	#15
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Obvious troll is obvious. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-29-10, 06:39 AM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	AC2 and SH5 were pirated roughly at the same time. SH5 didn't work at first, AC2 did (despite Ubi saying it didn't). SH5 copied the method used to crack AC2 and bang, both games cracked. Ubi didn't even slow them down.

03-29-10, 06:57 AM	#6
BigBANGtheory Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: British Waters Posts: 243 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	What they have achieved is killing the 2nd hand market for these titles. I'm not saying this is good or bad, its just an observation...

03-29-10, 07:15 AM	#9
BamaFan67 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 9 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	First post for SH5....long time player..SH3, SH4 w/UBM and now SH5. To put a damper on your "pirates cant continue with the missions" thing, my coughcousincough pirated the game after hearing me complain that this is nothing like the other releases, more arcade like and no thinking allowed. Well, last night he called and said he just started Happy times and the only complaints he has is that every time he finishes a mission, he has to save in port, edit the campaign file and reload. Says its a pain, but no DRM. I own AC2, and has of yet, no crack for it that actually works. EDIT: Game companies blame pirates on decreasing sales. They claim its only the PC side, so they just concentrate on the consoles. If you ever look at the torrent sites, XBox games are pirated just has much as PC games.....but no mention of that in any articles.

03-29-10, 08:11 AM	#11
cothyso Sailor man Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 50 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	yes, because they are paying MORE for their dumbed versions of games than you pay for your PC better version of the same game.so, for them, we actually ARE scum. usually, a console game is at least 10 euro/pounds more than the same PC version. that's the sad reality. another part of it is that console games are even easier to be pirated than the PC versions, you don't have to know anything to do it, just have a friend to know someone to mod your console and that's it. all the "console games are not pirated or at least harder to be pirated than PC games" it's just dust in your eyes, covering the fact that they are easier to develop, get more money from them and have better control over the customers. that's all..

03-29-10, 08:14 AM	#12
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	OnLive will solve the piracy forever. But until that, if there is a law against piracy, how come is no law against thief's, like Ubi? How come we can't sue these companies and keep allowing things like this to happen. What Ubi did with SH5 can be just the first step on a new trend.. dropping unfinished products and services at full price on markets, only make sure what is wrote on the box will be there so nobody can sue you. Way to go.