Lost and Found

[Gabucino]

Originally Posted by Nemesis43

Life under pan-european national socialism would have been no picnic either, you know.

National Socialism was banned in Hungary until the German occupation.

The western allied powers weren't politically able to claim all of Europe when the Soviet Union had played such an instrumental part in defeating Nazi Germany.

Not that they wanted to. In 1932, Stalin created the Holodomor. Ten million ukranians have starved to death due to the state-organized famine and during the freezing winter. Next thing you know, the "western" allies ignore the fact that their mass-murdering friend state invades an allies member (Poland). In fact, to express their gratitude they create the Murmansk convoy, supplying this murderous communist democracy (as it was called).

It was a very unfortunate outcome for eastern Europe as a whole

Agreed, that's what I wrote.

In Hungary, it's currently the gypsy population that bears the brunt of it

It is very unfortunate that foreign news agencies are fed these lies (by Viktoria Mohácsi, a gypsy who is a member of the post-communist government, and also Veronika Munk, whose irreal articles have caused great outrage). Reality:

- the gypsy mafia of Ózd holding dog fights

- the last old hungarian lady in a now gypsy village has been brutally murdered, bones broken, left for dead. Two gypsy murderers, 14 and 11 years old. These murders are so common that they are hardly treated as news nowadays.

- the gypsy mafia, during a routine fight in a bar (they do that so the owner will have to pay protection money) killed two members of the hungarian handball team. They were surrounded, then knifed until they went to the ground. Then they throats were slit. The murderers were let out of prison. They instantly held a "prison release party". Local people said: "the terror came back to our village".

- gypsies brutally murdered (english language) a hungarian teacher, while threatening his daughters with rape. The memorial of the event is being used as a garbage dump by the murderers' family.

- they sabotage the train traffic by stealing cables. Daily. These are classified as common "theft" by the lawmakers instead of terrorism. And don't even get me started on the mass-scale illegal woodcutting of forests.

6 gypsies were killed by hate crime, all by the same party. Contrary to the events I mentioned, this case was widely publicized. The fact that one of the culprits was a member of the hungarian secret service - was not. In short: government orchestrated hate crimes, sold abroad to validate the massive police buildup, and the crippling of free-speech laws.

The Guard that you linked has never been associated with agressive acts against minorities (most hungarians would say: unfortunately). We are on the brink of open hostilities, thanks to the gypsies whose slogan is: "kill the hungarian".

I am very sorry, but foreign news agencies only copy the lies of the government propaganda. But I'll say what I always do: don't believe me - check for yourself.

[Nisgeis]

Well it started off about a documentary, but I think this belongs in the GT forum now.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Well it started off about a documentary, but I think this belongs in the GT forum now.

Should we return to remembering those in eternal patrol (and other killed in wars)? This conversation is not going anywhere but disaster.

[Nemesis43]

Yes, sorry about contributing to the derailment of the thread. It stops here.

[SabreHawk]

Indeed, and for the sake of friendship I'd like to say that I'd stand with all, from whatever country you may be in, in honor of your fallen soldiers, sailors and countrymen as well as my own. And offer my sincere appoligies to anyone to whom may be offended by anything I may have said that did not set well with you.

War is a terrible thing, and in the end is the only true enemy. Something that if we are ever to be truly human, to be truly civilized should be elimminated from our existance.
As a child growing up, there was a resteraunt that my mother & father took us to often. And in it, from a friend of the owner was a vast collection of WWII wepons and memorabilia. This friend of the owner lived next door, and out in his front yard was an arillery weapon there also. AS well as much more stuff inside. It was like a small museum.
But one thing that as a boy always struck me as I sat there eating my meal, and gazing around at it all was how grownups who were supposed to be so much smarter than we kids actually approved of the use of such things against others. That all of this stuff had the sole puropose of killing, which to my young mind was taught to me to be wrong.
Yet there it all was on display, and in a place known as a family restaraunt, as if it were perfectly normal and an accepted thing.

Hehe, one such item on the wall that to me always gave me the creeps was a gas mask, and it had what to me were these evil eyes and just staring at me. Made it hard to concentrate on eating sometimes.

[PaulH513]

Speaking of gas masks

Here you see Jimbuna all dressed up for a night on the town



Sorry Jim

I have no idea what possessed me to do this

I know, I know its back to the potato peeling room for me

Just don't throw me in the rat infested bilge ok?

I had to throw in a little levity as it seemed we were close to WW3 here on this thread. I am glad to see everyone appears to be on the same page now.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by PaulH513

Speaking of gas masks

Here you see Jimbuna all dressed up for a night on the town



Sorry Jim

I have no idea what possessed me to do this

I know, I know its back to the potato peeling room for me

Just don't throw me in the rat infested bilge ok?

I had to throw in a little levity as it seemed we were close to WW3 here on this thread. I am glad to see everyone appears to be on the same page now.

Hey!...I resemble that photo






Good to see your keeping your end up matey