Afraid of Airplanes?

silversurfer · 03-26-10, 03:16 PM

If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..

SabreHawk · 03-26-10, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by silversurfer

If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..

Yep and one never can know how far or close they may be at the time of reporting. Could be they are a day or two away and it's considered a waste of fuel to come as you'd be long gone.
Could be we/some have just been lucky so far. This is how it is in war.

Hanomag · 03-26-10, 04:42 PM

Sounds good to me.. unlike SH3 GWX.. where aircraft spot your periscope in rough seas in the pitch dark at night.. and then drop bombs right down the hatch..

torrent · 03-26-10, 04:54 PM

This is just conjecture no doubt...

But from what I have seen in the early campaign... getting buzzed (and sighted) by one plane (or enemy ship) sets up a double fly over in a few hours, and every few hours after that until you have successfully "lost" them (i.e. significantly changed course). Again... could be coincidence, but on patrols where I was not spotted en route, then hunting was good. And I get spotted, and subsequently buzzed by the double planes, I can't find a ship or sound of one for hours, even days.

If I am close to a enemy port, around 10km or so... then It will not be long before a DD is b lining it right to me.

wamphyri · 03-27-10, 06:59 AM

Here give this a try.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164452

I should have a new version out soon with more little improvments. Plus if you really want to kick it up a notch use it with this mod. It makes the AI for the destroyers better plus has an added benefit of planes and destroyers working together. So if a plane spots you and a destroyers near then it may just come steaming over.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=165886

karamazovnew · 03-27-10, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by silversurfer

If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..

Nope... they don't. Until someone can prove that they DO, let me prove to you that they DON'T.

I had to sink 2 more escorts and, after 2 weeks raiding near Scapa Flow, I decided to risk it. I parked myself in deep water and waited. Soon I managed to get escort contacts on my hydros. But they were too fast to catch. We circled around eachother at 20 km or so. At this point I ran into a few merchants. I gunned them from a distance to allow them to call in for the warships. Nothing happened. Then aircraft started to buzz me. 2, 3, 4, 5, in total about 20 air patrols came right over me. I even fired at them with my aa gun. All the time I had those escorts sound lines on my nav map. 2 days later I got bored and made for scapa and sank a BB and 8 of it's escorts. They were 20 miles away, heading away from me, going at 5 knots.... so much for aircraft reporting position.

But the best example is my sinking of 2 aircraft cariers. Planes were all around me yet the task forces which were already in visual range didn't seem to care.

the_belgian · 03-27-10, 08:34 PM

In the beginning of the war U-boats had little to fear from allied aircraft. Only 2 U-boats were lost to aircraft during 1939-1941 but in 1942 alone 31 boats were lost to them. A sign of things to come.
The aircraft eventually drove the U-boats submerged and forced them to stay there for extended periods of time thus greatly reducing their operational efficiency.
This strategic victory was not without loss as can be seen in the table here below; more than 120 aircraft and hundreds of men were lost in the fierce battles between the U-boats and their pursuing aircraft. In a number of cases there were no survivors from either the aircraft or the U-boat. You should read more about the famous Fight Back order as it attempts to explain perhaps the most critical phase of the entire battle, the summer of 1943.

source http://www.uboat.net/history/aircraft_losses.htm

03-26-10, 04:42 PM	#3
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Sounds good to me.. unlike SH3 GWX.. where aircraft spot your periscope in rough seas in the pitch dark at night.. and then drop bombs right down the hatch.. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

03-26-10, 03:16 PM	#1
silversurfer Seaman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 38 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	If you wait around long enough a task force of 3 to 4 destroyers turn up. It appears that the aircraft when it flys over is just a spotter. If the same aircraft makes a second pass a short time after its firsts its calling the destroyers..

03-26-10, 04:54 PM	#4
torrent Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	This is just conjecture no doubt... But from what I have seen in the early campaign... getting buzzed (and sighted) by one plane (or enemy ship) sets up a double fly over in a few hours, and every few hours after that until you have successfully "lost" them (i.e. significantly changed course). Again... could be coincidence, but on patrols where I was not spotted en route, then hunting was good. And I get spotted, and subsequently buzzed by the double planes, I can't find a ship or sound of one for hours, even days. If I am close to a enemy port, around 10km or so... then It will not be long before a DD is b lining it right to me.

03-27-10, 06:59 AM	#5
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Here give this a try. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164452 I should have a new version out soon with more little improvments. Plus if you really want to kick it up a notch use it with this mod. It makes the AI for the destroyers better plus has an added benefit of planes and destroyers working together. So if a plane spots you and a destroyers near then it may just come steaming over. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=165886

03-27-10, 08:34 PM	#7
the_belgian Commander Join Date: May 2007 Location: a mile behind the sign"end of civilisation" Posts: 444 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	In the beginning of the war U-boats had little to fear from allied aircraft. Only 2 U-boats were lost to aircraft during 1939-1941 but in 1942 alone 31 boats were lost to them. A sign of things to come. The aircraft eventually drove the U-boats submerged and forced them to stay there for extended periods of time thus greatly reducing their operational efficiency. This strategic victory was not without loss as can be seen in the table here below; more than 120 aircraft and hundreds of men were lost in the fierce battles between the U-boats and their pursuing aircraft. In a number of cases there were no survivors from either the aircraft or the U-boat. You should read more about the famous Fight Back order as it attempts to explain perhaps the most critical phase of the entire battle, the summer of 1943. source http://www.uboat.net/history/aircraft_losses.htm