Massive Price Drop!

[609_Avatar]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

If the modders here and elsewhere refused to touch SH5 at all, what kind of game would we have? Another buggy mess that's barely playable and not even accessible a lot of the time.

Just to be fair here, and I don't even own the game (my brother-in-law does and has played the past few days though and I've read tons of stuff here), but describing it as a "buggy mess that's barely playable" is going a bit too far. Yes, there are plenty of bugs, some won't even be noticed by newbies (my brother-in-law said it was really cool when he was leaving port and saw a few damaged ships in harbor trying to maneuver which he attributed to an allied air attack, until I told him it was bad AI that caused them to crash into the docks...) but it is hardly "barely playable" as many people are playing it daily for hours without crashes, etc. You might be more "demanding" than others it terms of what you call acceptable, and I'm probably close to that in some regards, but it's playable, maybe just not enjoyable because of spotting bugs, like the ships crashing in port for example. Without modding it is a lot worse, like you state, but is still playable, just frustrating for many. I know, semantics and all, but people will take you at your word and that's just not literally true what you stated from all that I've heard. I do whole heartedly agree that without modders this series would probably already be dead with SHIV.

[The General]

Originally Posted by 609_Avatar

my brother-in-law said it was really cool when he was leaving port and saw a few damaged ships in harbor trying to maneuver which he attributed to an allied air attack, until I told him it was bad AI that caused them to crash into the docks...)

Aww, your Brother-in-law was quite happy, blissfully unaware.

I enjoyed reading your post. The sad truth is that some people on this site get more enjoyment from criticizing a game they haven't even played, or the people that do play the game, than contributing constructively to this website or to the FUTURE of the series (Mentioning no names: ). Put me im the Brig if you want! All I'm doing is defending SH5 from those who haven't played it and don't know what they're talking about anyway!

[thyro]

Originally Posted by The General

All I'm doing is defending SH5 from those who haven't played it and don't know what they're talking about anyway!

I'll submit your name to Pope to make a saint of you. The crusades are no more but you never know if it won't start tomorrow. Beside is good to have defenders whatever are the causes

[janh]

Originally Posted by The General

AThe sad truth is that some people on this site get more enjoyment from criticizing a game they haven't even played, or the people that do play the game, than contributing constructively to this website or to the FUTURE of the series (Mentioning no names: ).

I agree that it is time for the people to listen more than bark. But if my personal impression during the past roughly 7-10 days is right, they are not complaining anymore. It has become mostly owners of SHV that post threads like "...hate that ****, don't play it anymore", or "go back to SHIII now, good bye" (or along these lines). Correct me if my impression is wrong, but the people denting it right now with (re)new(ed) arguments are mainly actual players.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by janh

I agree that it is time for the people to listen more than bark. But if my personal impression during the past roughly 7-10 days is right, they are not complaining anymore. It has become mostly owners of SHV that post threads like "...hate that ****, don't play it anymore", or "go back to SHIII now, good bye" (or along these lines). Correct me if my impression is wrong, but the people denting it right now with (re)new(ed) arguments are mainly actual players.

I would not say that. I would say there are still extremists on both sides, as you can see just in this thread (and I have also sometimes been guilty of that).

But on the whole I think we can see the forum getting slowly back to normal, where we will be able to calmly discuss the game and its issues, without sparks flying all the time...

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I would not say that. I would say there are still extremists on both sides, as you can see just in this thread (and I have also sometimes been guilty of that).

But on the whole I think we can see the forum getting slowly back to normal, where we will be able to calmly discuss the game and its issues, without sparks flying all the time...

Indeed, some people will do almost anything to convince you that their opinion is the only one which matters, you have seen an example of that on page 10 alone. My thread has been taken out of context, because one particular individual assumes that it is an assault against the game he worships, when in fact it's purpose was only to inform those who have yet to purchase the game of the price change. I fail to see how this is in any way negative, but as usual, the extremists see what they want to see.

I agree that the forum is calming down, compared to a few weeks ago, but there is still a long way to go. Honestly, I don't see why some people feel the need to be so openly hostile to those who either do not share their point of view, or disagree with some aspect of it. Surely, the purpose of this forum is to 'discuss', not beat each other over the heads, or am I missing something here?

Originally Posted by Commie

Why the brig?

Because he's a troll, and the brig is where trolls belong. He knows it, we know it, hell, the whole damned forum probably knows it.

[SteamWake]

Well on steam it is still on the top 10 sellers list at the original price.

I'm guessing those in the UK arent as keen on subsims.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Well on steam it is still on the top 10 sellers list at the original price.

I'm guessing those in the UK arent as keen on subsims.

Not necessarily, the price reduction doesn't tell us anything at this time, as currently Amazon are the only ones to do so (to my knowledge).

[Cavell]

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Well on steam it is still on the top 10 sellers list at the original price.

I'm guessing those in the UK arent as keen on subsims.

No, it isn't.

It cracked the Steam top 10 its first week out, at number 8 I believe, and was then beaten out by Counter-Strike: Source.

[The General]

Originally Posted by 609_Avatar

my brother-in-law said it was really cool when he was leaving port and saw a few damaged ships in harbor trying to maneuver which he attributed to an allied air attack, until I told him it was bad AI that caused them to crash into the docks...)

Aww, your Brother-in-law was quite happy, blissfully unaware.

I enjoyed reading your post. The sad truth is that some people on this site get more enjoyment from criticizing a game they haven't even played, or the people that do play the game, than contributing constructively to this website or to the FUTURE of the series (Mentioning no names: Carotio & Nordmann . Put me im the Brig if you want! All I'm doing is defending SH5 from those who haven't played it and don't know what they're talking about anyway!

[Commie]

Originally Posted by The General

Aww, your Brother-in-law was quite happy, blissfully unaware.

I enjoyed reading your post. The sad truth is that some people on this site get more enjoyment from criticizing a game they haven't even played, or the people that do play the game, than contributing constructively to this website or to the FUTURE of the series (Mentioning no names: . Put me im the Brig if you want! All I'm doing is defending SH5 from those who haven't played it and don't know what they're talking about anyway!

Why the brig? It's funny to think that despite all you slavish devotion to UBI and the GROFAZ of games that is SH5, the game and you will be treated with contempt by UBI who will decide that instead of a patch they'll just make you pay for an expansion which will fix a couple of things and add content that will be useless anyway. This is what happened with Empire Total War, and the sad thing is that there are enough fanatics like yourself that will lap up these things thus making the publisher feel vindicated in their strategy.